Why is "Aspergers" gone?

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24 Feb 2014, 9:08 am

Asperger's just sounds like it doesn't paint the disability as black and white to me. Plus I'm too used to the term "Aspie" right now.

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24 Feb 2014, 10:02 am

Dreycrux wrote:

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It's not "hate", it's just not that big of a deal. So what if people with the same sense of humour as a 5-year-old are going to laugh at it?

It really is a big deal. Presentation is everything. The name looks embarassing everywhere no matter if your 5 or 60. If avoiding using the term is common then that causes a big problem with classification and the persons identity.

How does something spelled aspergers 'look' embarrasing?

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24 Feb 2014, 10:16 am

Maybe because some/many people on the spectrum think visually? When they hear the word, they also see it in their mind's eye?

Just a guess.

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24 Feb 2014, 12:31 pm

The German pronunciation is ahhz-PEAR-gayrz. The "e" is pronounced like the "a" in bathe. The "s" is pronounced like "z." And the "a" at the beginning is prounced "ah."

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24 Feb 2014, 12:57 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:

Dreycrux wrote:

Who_Am_I wrote:

It's not "hate", it's just not that big of a deal. So what if people with the same sense of humour as a 5-year-old are going to laugh at it?

How does something spelled aspergers 'look' embarrasing?

Sounds would probably be closer to what I meant.

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24 Feb 2014, 4:41 pm

Well, call it what you will but as far as I'm concerned, we'll always Be "Aspies" and I've got the tshirt to prove it.

In the end, does it really matter what the official name is? We can call ourselves Aspies forever if we like. Nicknames don't have to be based on the real name.

Anyway, you all make up your own minds. For me, I'm always going to be an Aspie.

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24 Feb 2014, 4:52 pm

Dreycrux wrote:

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animalcrackers wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

But would he have had that last name if he was english?....also German being the language of the area effects the pronunciation. So it would sound different if someone german said it than if someone from say the U.S says it the correct way to say it would be with a german accent which doesn't quite sound like 'assburgers' not sure how to spell how it would sound.

True. I just meant that his perception of his own name doesn't matter because he wasn't the one who named it after himself.

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Lorna Wing is oblivious then. My same argument applies here. Why did she not consider the ramification of such a name?

I don't know.

Lorna Wing defined Aspergers Syndrome. When she defined the syndrome it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Assburgers because the name of the clinician she named the syndrome for is pronounced AAS-PER-GERS not ASS-BURGERS. There is no freaking B in the guys last name or in the name of the syndrome. NO B in the name NO f***ing B in the correct pronunciation of the name.

Assburgers is an incorrect pronunciation used by some Americans. It was popularized in 2011 when the popular American comedy show South Park ran an episode entitled Ass Burgers. Since the show ran it has become common when the topic of Aspergers Syndrome comes up for bully's to use the term ASS-BURGERS to invalidate the syndrome and people who have it or just to use the term because to their juvenile minds they think it is funny. Unfortunately many people with Aspergers have internalized this bullying. Hans Asperger at a time of Nazi eugenics stated that people with "a dash of Autism" could be valuable to society. Hans Asperger was the first Autism advocate and you want to get rid of the tribute to him because you don't like the incorrect pronunciation of his last name. Even if his real last was was Assburgers it would be wrong to get rid of the tribute.

This whole Assburgers meme make me furious and heartbroken at the same time. You are mistaken if you think getting rid of the term is going to protect you from bully's or will validate your struggles. The bullys will find a way to to make the word Autism into more of a negative. The people who think that your struggles are because of character flaws and not "real autism" will not only still feel that way but become even more convinced when they see Autistic people saying the same thing.

AAS-PER-GERS sounds like ass-purgers which is even worse then assburgers. Purging your ass? What was wrong with this woman?

I cringe when I say it either way it's pronounced. I'm glad they buried it.

AAS as i aaaaaaahs (Yawning sound) not ass. g as in guaranteed not gerrymander.

What was wrong with her? She is British. She failed to take into account that we(Americans) would butcher the name and make a middle school level joke out of it.

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25 Feb 2014, 12:52 am

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watch out though, theres often a pack of dogs to descend on and tear us apart when i utter this line of free thinking common sense ....

aspis to my mind crave friendships whereas autists are notoriously cold.

aspis often have talents and can soar above others with their abilities, autists (I hope I don't offend) seem like granite .... cold and inflexible, dead to inference and hint ..... maybe v occasionally with a super-functioning gift but near to odd as odd can be ....

it is scientifically, clinically, emotionally, legally unsupportable, taxanomically absurd, name what you want, to bunch these opposites/ extremes of outlook, perception and feelings as one label.

thats all my tired noodle can think of right now, ongoing fatigue is hindering me ....and no matter what i write it hardly makes a jot to those so hell bent on proceeding with the change ...

People probably tear you apart because it isn't "common sense". It is ignorant, hateful and untrue. How can you say your not trying to offend and then say things that imply autistic people aren't people? Stop comparing living, breathing, feeling people to inanimate objects. Aspies are not somehow "better" than autistic people. If my anger sounds excessive, its because I came back to this website because I thought maybe I could go to at least ONE PLACE and not have to hear that crap. But, now this awfulness seems to be inescapable.

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25 Feb 2014, 1:57 am

ablomov wrote:

Aspies have Autism...

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25 Feb 2014, 8:43 am

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Assburgers is an incorrect pronunciation used by some Americans. It was popularized in 2011 when the popular American comedy show South Park ran an episode entitled Ass Burgers. Since the show ran it has become common when the topic of Aspergers Syndrome comes up for bully's to use the term ASS-BURGERS to invalidate the syndrome and people who have it or just to use the term because to their juvenile minds they think it is funny.

its a pity a lot of aspies dont have the same care for southparks use of retarded-which never existed in the UK until southpark started here in nineteen ninty five,thanks to southparks wild overuse of the term and the use of intelectualy disabled stereotypes; it has developed a wider culture of ignorance,bigotism and disablist hate crime towards those of us with intelectual disability.

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