Do you feel you are easily manipulated?

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jenisautistic
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13 Mar 2014, 3:26 am

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Someone once told me that I let people walk all over me and I shouldn't be so naïve.
Like telling me that ever did any good. :doh:


I know how you feel. This happened to me throughout my old school and I'm sure I'm still doing.It seems like the wost insult I am capable of is rolling my eyes ohh real scary :roll:

I was in the hallway of my school with my pelter autism head phones and some random kid pointed to me and said "she look real ed " "This girl looks like a real ed kid".

And what do you think I did ?


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13 Mar 2014, 4:13 am

jenisautistic wrote:
Marybird wrote:
Someone once told me that I let people walk all over me and I shouldn't be so naïve.
Like telling me that ever did any good. :doh:


I know how you feel. This happened to me throughout my old school and I'm sure I'm still doing.It seems like the wost insult I am capable of is rolling my eyes ohh real scary :roll:

I was in the hallway of my school with my pelter autism head phones and some random kid pointed to me and said "she look real ed " "This girl looks like a real ed kid".

And what do you think I did ?

Actually this-> :roll: shows you are strong and not stooping to their level.
I'm not good at defending myself against verbal attacks either. I would just be wondering why the person is doing that and wouldn't know what to say.
I am not good at recognizing a manipulator either.
I notice when someone is being antagonistic, but then I can't figure out if they are trolling or if they are sincere. Then I keep reading their posts to try to understand what's going on.



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13 Mar 2014, 7:05 am

Marybird wrote:
jenisautistic wrote:
Marybird wrote:
Someone once told me that I let people walk all over me and I shouldn't be so naïve.
Like telling me that ever did any good. :doh:


I know how you feel. This happened to me throughout my old school and I'm sure I'm still doing.It seems like the wost insult I am capable of is rolling my eyes ohh real scary :roll:

I was in the hallway of my school with my pelter autism head phones and some random kid pointed to me and said "she look real ed " "This girl looks like a real ed kid".

And what do you think I did ?

Actually this-> :roll: shows you are strong and not stooping to their level.
I'm not good at defending myself against verbal attacks either. I would just be wondering why the person is doing that and wouldn't know what to say.
I am not good at recognizing a manipulator either.
I notice when someone is being antagonistic, but then I can't figure out if they are trolling or if they are sincere. Then I keep reading their posts to try to understand what's going on.


Yes as is probably obvious now but I due the same thing I just don't even Conciter that someone might be a troll .

Actually my why do some people consider low functioning Inferior thread was started after a troll thread by a member called KOZ who I responded to not knowing the member was a troll but I believe they were banned. And I don't remember much about the thread because it was removed.


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13 Mar 2014, 8:47 am

wozeree wrote:
We need a sticky posted somewhere that says - WHEN YOU SEE THESE SIGNS OF TROLLERY, DON'T RESPOND!


Excellent advice!

Also I have never heard the word "Trollery" before and I like it! 8)

I think I am strong with this, but then suddenly look up from my desk and realise I am the only one still working on a joint report and everybody else is in the pub. Not that I would join them there, obviously, but then I sit there and think, "D'oh!" But then if I say anything, I get the old, "Well you have to be a team-player!" line. Frustrating and I realise I am not as good at it as I thought.


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13 Mar 2014, 2:31 pm

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Especially in real time, especially when they override me, talk over me, etc. it's easy for me to end up agreeing with something I do not agree with because of the way many allistic/NT types have of communicating without allowing room for discussion. Other NTs/allistics can meet this head on, but I can't function because I am behind the curve for the entire conversation, and may not even know what all was said until hours later.


Same for me. It took me a long time to even realize how it happens. I used to just feel dazed and run over by people and not even know why. Now I am more aware of it but still feel kind of helpless while it is happening. Seems to be the worst for me over the phone.


I used to really resent it, and would get extremely frustrated with people over it. It was only recently I realized that it's likely no one is trying to do this to me, I just don't have the ability to cope with it when it's happening.


This too. It took me a long time to realize that people don't always understand the effect it has on me. But I think some people do it on purpose.

I have had several jobs in sales and so I have worked with a lot of salespeople and watched them use a technique like this on customers. It's a common sales strategy, to make assumptions and rush the conversation along so the other person automatically agrees to things without having any discussion about it. They call it "assuming the sale." I dislike it because I find it highly manipulative. I have seen it work on all kinds of people, even those I would never guess would be so easily influenced. It is kind of sickening to me to see it happen.

I noticed those same salespeople would use the same technique on me in a casual conversation, and I would feel like I had been totally overwhelmed, dazed, pressured into agreeing with their opinions, sometimes even pressured into doing things I didn't really want to do without knowing how I had agreed to it. After hearing them brag about doing the same things to customers I realized they knew exactly what they were doing.

In my experience, corporate middle management tends to use this technique too, on employees. There were some great examples of it in the movie Office Space. In my current job I have seen 3 different managers use the same behaviors in such an uncanny way that I know they must have been through a training course for it.

I think those are more extreme cases of people doing it on purpose, and having a deliberate strategy and technique, but I have seen people do similar things in ordinary social situations to a lesser degree.