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24 Mar 2014, 11:59 am

When I finally did start talking it was only to ask for stuff and to say no.



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24 Mar 2014, 12:48 pm

EzraS wrote:
When I finally did start talking it was only to ask for stuff and to say no.



Yeah this is like me and I would ofen yell at and hit other children too.


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24 Mar 2014, 5:11 pm

I definitely agree with OP on this. Aspies are more prone to be separated from other individuals with autism. The Aspies I know don't like to associate themselves with autism, although there is a link acknowledged.


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24 Mar 2014, 5:21 pm

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Significant speech delay, how much? Only had 10 words by 2 years, I could not speak more than single words some time past 3.

btbunnyr wrote still technically high-functioning autism.



I sopposly had a lot of words but I believe it was most if not all echoing. Can't explain now, maybe I'll have time later.


Yeah, I started speaking very early, but a lot of my communication was repeating phrases from children's books or television. Or later on, pattern matching responses to statements without always knowing what the responses meant.

I still have trouble responding verbally in real time unless I have already read or written what I am trying to say. If someone takes the discussion in an unexpected direction, I may be unable to answer at all because it may be something I never expected to hear or prepare for.

Writing is much easier.



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24 Mar 2014, 9:03 pm

More than talking, I hate listening to other people talk. I can't pay attention to people speaking. I don't understand much of what they are saying, even if I know the topic. Listening is not for me. Auditory is worst way for me to learn.


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24 Mar 2014, 9:19 pm

Not all of us suffer from this delusion that Autism a great thing, not all of anti-cure, some of us know we and many others would be much better off with an cure.



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24 Mar 2014, 9:39 pm

I also had a severe physical delay and what my doctor wrote as hypertonia that still effects me today.


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24 Mar 2014, 9:50 pm

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Not all of us suffer from this delusion that Autism a great thing, not all of anti-cure, some of us know we and many others would be much better off with an cure.


But never accommodations because people with disabilities are not at a disadvantage relative to abled people.

But autism is totally a bad thing.

Do you not see the contradiction here?



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24 Mar 2014, 9:56 pm

Verdandi wrote:
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Not all of us suffer from this delusion that Autism a great thing, not all of anti-cure, some of us know we and many others would be much better off with an cure.


But never accommodations because people with disabilities are not at a disadvantage relative to abled people.

But autism is totally a bad thing.

Do you not see the contradiction here?


No because just because are have issues, we need to learn to overcome this issues on our own. Just because you have slower processing speed than me doesn't mean you deserve more time, it means you need to work harder to over come it. Your slow processing speed isn't my problem,. Just like my issues isn't societies problem.

I see so many high functioning people on the spectrum or people with "ADHD" giving so many advantages, so much special treatment who can't even get themselves together to graduate college, find a job, or anything. They are basically useless, because they allowed the condition to control them, when they need to control it. Here I am never given any help, never given any accommodations, working my a**off graduated with a good GPA from a top university, have a high paying job, own my own home, doing well for my self I would say. There is no reason more people on the spectrum can't achieve what I have without the need to rely on crunches and special treatment.



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24 Mar 2014, 10:09 pm

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No because just because are have issues, we need to learn to overcome this issues on our own. Just because you have slower processing speed than me doesn't mean you deserve more time, it means you need to work harder to over come it. Your slow processing speed isn't my problem,. Just like my issues isn't societies problem.


If it's so easy to overcome, it's not nearly as bad as you say it is, dude. If you can just overcome it if you try hard enough, why do you need a cure? It doesn't really sound like you do since you could do it all yourself, so why all the angst over it?

And how exactly do you propose people overcome the "hardware limitations" of their neurology? How does that work, exactly?

Also, disabled people's issues are society's problem. Because we're a part of society, because so many of us are unable to work at our ability because of the lack of accommodation as well as impairments interfering directly with the ability to get an education or hold a job (let alone get a job in the first place). If disabled people don't get accommodations, then, they're more likely to receive disability benefits and other assistance. So one way or another, society's paying.

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I see so many people on the spectrum giving so many advantages, so much special treatment who can't even get themselves together to graduate college, find a job, or anything. They are basically useless, because they allowed the condition to control them, when they need to control it. Here I am never given any help, never given any accommodations, working my a**off graduated with a good GPA from a top university, have a high paying job, own my own home, doing well for my self I would say. There is no reason more people on the spectrum can't achieve what I have without the need to rely on crunches and special treatment.


This is ableist tripe. You were not given any help or accommodations, but succeeded anyway? That's likely because you're mild, not because you had more willpower or that you didn't "allow the condition to control you." Reality is that the vast majority of autistic people do not end up in your position, and more than likely cannot without accommodations. This isn't a matter of doing the right or wrong thing. It's simply a matter of some people facing more severe challenges than other people and needing more help. There's nothing wrong with needing help.



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24 Mar 2014, 10:11 pm

You might as well argue that diabetics shouldn't use insulin because they should just overcome their disorder instead of expecting someone to provide medication to control it.



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24 Mar 2014, 10:17 pm

Verdandi wrote:
jenisautistic wrote:
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Significant speech delay, how much? Only had 10 words by 2 years, I could not speak more than single words some time past 3.

btbunnyr wrote still technically high-functioning autism.



I sopposly had a lot of words but I believe it was most if not all echoing. Can't explain now, maybe I'll have time later.


Yeah, I started speaking very early, but a lot of my communication was repeating phrases from children's books or television. Or later on, pattern matching responses to statements without always knowing what the responses meant.

I still have trouble responding verbally in real time unless I have already read or written what I am trying to say. If someone takes the discussion in an unexpected direction, I may be unable to answer at all because it may be something I never expected to hear or prepare for.

Writing is much easier.


I have problems with this in general but its even harder when thing to report stuff. Or explain things.


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24 Mar 2014, 10:35 pm

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I have problems with this in general but its even harder when thing to report stuff. Or explain things.


Yeah, I can explain things, at least if I have a 'script' to work from.

However, I can also get sidetracked into circumstantial or tangential randomness and completely lose track. Just stringing things together based on association and losing the plot.



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25 Mar 2014, 1:09 am

btbnnyr, KOR, Lumi, Ezra, Jen and Verdandi!!

I could pay a bunch of smart ass speech therapists thousands of dollars and I would not get deep insight you guys provide on autism. Thanks guys, you make logging onto WP worthwhile...



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25 Mar 2014, 1:11 am

Verdandi wrote:
You might as well argue that diabetics shouldn't use insulin because they should just overcome their disorder instead of expecting someone to provide medication to control it.


Medication doesn't give a diabetic an unfair advantage, extra time does give someone an unfair advantage.



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25 Mar 2014, 1:17 am

DVCal wrote:
No because just because are have issues, we need to learn to overcome this issues on our own. Just because you have slower processing speed than me doesn't mean you deserve more time, it means you need to work harder to over come it. Your slow processing speed isn't my problem,. Just like my issues isn't societies problem.

I see so many high functioning people on the spectrum or people with "ADHD" giving so many advantages, so much special treatment who can't even get themselves together to graduate college, find a job, or anything. They are basically useless, because they allowed the condition to control them, when they need to control it. Here I am never given any help, never given any accommodations, working my a**off graduated with a good GPA from a top university, have a high paying job, own my own home, doing well for my self I would say. There is no reason more people on the spectrum can't achieve what I have without the need to rely on crunches and special treatment.


Just because you overcame or compensated for your autism successfully on your own does not automatically mean others should be deprived of help if they need it. The issues faced by others on the spectrum are not the same as what you face. Don't make it sound like it's just some type of unwillingness or laziness on their part as that's just plain ignorance.