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02 Mar 2007, 2:27 pm

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I have an IQ coming in at a smooth 144, two points below the needed entry level. Trying to prove to anyone at school I had such an IQ resulted in me being called a liar an a 'faker'.

Haha, people make me laugh.


I thought Mensa required 138 on just about all of the standard IQ tests.


When I did their home test, I believe the entry requirement is around 145 or something like that, in the uk anyway. It made no sense to me as their test only measures up to 161 according to the literature.



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02 Mar 2007, 2:40 pm

The rule, from their website, says that you are supposed to be in the top 2% of the population. As they state, that doesn't correspond with a specific IQ score, which is 100*mental/phsical. Which is age dependent in any case, and depends on the distribution in a particular population (not that that should change, I guess).

Anyway. I just finished their test, without taking it too seriously, and scored 25/30, when they encourage me with "That is an excellent score, you would have a very strong chance of passing the Mensa test and joining Mensa.".

The questions I got wrong were:

A couple of anagrams, that I couldn't be bothered to spend much time on. Anagrams bore me.

A stupid test whose explanation said "you count every vowel as five points". What crap. Why five? I was looking for something less trivial.

A picture thing that I think I clicked on the wrong radio button. It was towards the end and I was really finding the whole thing tedious.

A series that was the primes. I'm a mathematician. Primes no longer excite me. I was bored. (OK. I just missed the blindingly obvious! :) ).



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02 Mar 2007, 3:09 pm

Lau wrote:
The rule, from their website, says that you are supposed to be in the top 2% of the population. As they state, that doesn't correspond with a specific IQ score, which is 100*mental/phsical. Which is age dependent in any case, and depends on the distribution in a particular population (not that that should change, I guess).

Anyway. I just finished their test, without taking it too seriously, and scored 25/30, when they encourage me with "That is an excellent score, you would have a very strong chance of passing the Mensa test and joining Mensa.".

The questions I got wrong were:

A couple of anagrams, that I couldn't be bothered to spend much time on. Anagrams bore me.

A stupid test whose explanation said "you count every vowel as five points". What crap. Why five? I was looking for something less trivial.

A picture thing that I think I clicked on the wrong radio button. It was towards the end and I was really finding the whole thing tedious.

A series that was the primes. I'm a mathematician. Primes no longer excite me. I was bored. (OK. I just missed the blindingly obvious! :) ).


I got 19 /30 but I skipped most the English word puzzle questions. It told me I scored low but I might do better on the offical test. I guess they want my money. One thing
I noted is you really could study those next in series questions and greatly improve your score in a short amount of time.



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02 Mar 2007, 3:38 pm

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I got 19 /30 but I skipped most the English word puzzle questions. It told me I scored low but I might do better on the offical test. I guess they want my money. One thing
I noted is you really could study those next in series questions and greatly improve your score in a short amount of time.


1) Don't take it seriously.
2) Yes. They want your money.
3) A lifetime of practicing silly "intelligence" tests makes it all a bit easy.

As I mentioned to a friend, just the other day:

What's the next number in this series: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8...

Well, being a mathematician, I instantly think... 40,329.

It's so obviously the series generated by x+(x-1)*(x-2)*(x-3)*(x-4)*(x-5)*(x-6)*(x-7)*(x-8).

(Actually, I cheated a bit there. I was too lazy to calculate the answer, so I got OpenOffice to do it for me.)

(I love that accidental smiley where the "8" and ")" was supposed to be.)



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03 Mar 2007, 7:36 am

Not gonna brag, my sis is the family dumbass at 145. I have been invited to join Mensa by members. Went to a function once.

Bottom line: they weren' like me at all. They all seemed like stock parts NTs (I did not have that term at the time). I have found my tribe here on WP.

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03 Mar 2007, 6:01 pm

SteveK: Thanks for the advice, i'll think i'll follow it!



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14 Mar 2007, 3:56 am

I joined MinD (MENSA in Deutschland) in 2004.
Back then I never heared about AS. But I knew that I was gifted (took an IQ-Test as a child, since I had massive problems at school).

It toook some pushing by my mum, but I went to a local Mensa Meeting early in 2004, I liked it, because here I finally met people which I could actally talk to about my special interests (the local Mensa-Group (PadMen) consists mostly of Informatics and Mathematics people, so science and computers are the main topics). I started going to both monthly events (one in a pub (at a very quiet time (playing billard most of the time)) the other at somebodys home, playing board and card games). After going to the events for about half a year, I decided to join.

I have found two friends through Mensa (first real friendships in many years).
Most people in Mensa are weird in their way, so that I do not stand out as much as I normally do. I also found that most Mensans are a lot more tolerant and open minded.
Those I know better, know about my AS, and are OK with that (I guess it helps them understand me better). They do tell me (frindly) if my stimming gets to annoying but normally don't mind that either. They have become a lot more helpful since I told them, and I can now ask about the more weird NT behaviours and actually get an answer... :D

Another phenomenon I have observed, is that new people, who come to our events seem to 'copy' the oppinion (from the other people there) that me, stimming or rocking, not making eye contact, ets. is 'normal'. It is quite hard to put it into words exactly, but it is definitely fascinating.

I did NOT join so I could brag about my membership, but because Mensa gave a lot to me, and I do not whant to feel like a parasite.

By the way, the IQ needed to join MENSA is not a set number, because different IQ-Tests are scored differently. Depending on what the average IQ and the standard deviation of the Test are, the Mensa Criteria will end up being a different IQ-Score (Mensa requires twice the standard deviation above the average score).

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14 Mar 2007, 6:03 am

is bill gates a member of mensa?



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14 Mar 2007, 10:43 am

fklama wrote:
Mensa requires twice the standard deviation above the average score.

Interesting. I could have sworn that wasn't what the website said... and it doesn't:
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Mensa Information -> What is Mensa? ... The society welcomes people from every walk of life whose IQ is in the top 2% of the population ...

I would guess the website is wrong/inaccurate, as 2 SD above mean is such a "nice" (archaic meaning) definition.

I have to admit that we have been less than polite about Mensa on this thread. I feel that you have been lucky. In any such word-wide network, there have to be local groups that are good. It would appear, from the rest of this thread, that your group is more of an exception than you realise.

Most people here seem to have a low opinion of Mensa in general, whereas your group seems to have been highly supportive. Good for you. Enjoy it. Best wishes. Pass on the compliment to your fellow group members - they're good guys.



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14 Mar 2007, 11:04 am

Have no idea what my IQ is, don't particularly care what it is.



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14 Mar 2007, 2:34 pm

Mensa kind of scares me. I suppose that if I met someone who was a member, and they seemed reasonable I would consider going through the whole testing procedure. But the only member I knew was my uncle, and he was an egotistical bastard about it.



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14 Mar 2007, 11:32 pm

I qualify for the International High IQ Society but I haven't gotten around to paying the fee to join. I probably qualify for Mensa, but I don't have the right documentation to get in right now. I was going to get formally tested last Jan, but I cancelled the appointment. I've met several people who are in Mensa, and honestly, they weren't that impressive. I observed that their singular common trait was that they seems to think they were more interesting than they really were - a trait I honestly find in a lot of Aspies and non-Aspies alike, regardless of IQ. So hey, self-absorption is a universal trait.

I only want to join Mensa so I can put it on my teaching resume. I have no use for their meetings.



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14 Mar 2007, 11:35 pm

I'm having IQ tests soon.

If my past tests are an indicator then I'm getting in with ease.



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14 Mar 2007, 11:42 pm

From what I have seen, no-one here is impressed by so called high IQ scores or by the validity of such tests, so I don't think a round of applause will be forthcoming.


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14 Mar 2007, 11:50 pm

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From what I have seen, no-one here is impressed by so called high IQ scores or by the validity of such tests, so I don't think a round of applause will be forthcoming.


The fact I feel accomplished is enough for me.

Besides, Employers dig MENSA



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15 Mar 2007, 6:37 am

Flagg wrote:
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From what I have seen, no-one here is impressed by so called high IQ scores or by the validity of such tests, so I don't think a round of applause will be forthcoming.


The fact I feel accomplished is enough for me.

Besides, Employers dig MENSA


I've got to tell you.... I have known enough mensans that seemed stupid. I knew a couple that claimed to be mensan that I doubt were smart at all! That in itself wouldn't impress ME, and some people wouldn't even know what mensa is! I think some employers may even be turned off by it.

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