DSM-5 ASD Severity Scale 0-3

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I agree. So, are you, therefore, advocating that ASD level 0 could exist as a stand-alone diagnosis? That would contradict the DSM-5 diagnostic criteria, but I agree wholeheartedly that the logic takes us there. Why even create an ASD level 0 if it means that no such diagnosis could exist?

Again, the cartel is convoluted.

I believe the solution would be to assign "Level 1" to the person who is not in need of "support," "Level 2" for one who does not need "substantial" support, etc.

One could have pretty serious symptoms within their autism--yet this one is able to manage his/her symptoms without outside "support."

Brilliant as always, kraftiekortie! Now, if we could just get that APA membership to come through for you.

BTW, happy 6000th post!

Last edited by AspieUtah on 24 Nov 2014, 11:41 am, edited 1 time in total.

Well of course. It lookd clearly to me like a brush it under the carpet tactic. Everybody has their problems right?

I would also like to add another interesting point that makes no sence.

Human life had been structured to require support. Nobody can live without a support structure. It is a community based environment. The most important, and biggest things require the most support. If there is no support structures in place for human kind, all there is, is a house of glass.

So what are we talking about here?
I just logically dismembered the whole DSM ASD support structure, and turned it into the same stuff that everyone else has to deal with.

Just for fun.

Fun and logic is always a great combination.

I can even twist it around, and make it backwards to make even more sence like this.

Level zero, which makes no sence, requires the most support, because those are the people that provide the most support for humankind on the ASD spectrum. Higher (number) levels on the ASD spectrum require support just like everyone else on the face of the planet, however their lives may provide less support for the environment, and need an environment provided for them in a more suitable, less stressful fashion, until such subjects can provide more support for its environment. Such fashionable environments may be required to be provided indefinitely.

Just another screwball idea off the top of my head.

I like to make stuff up.

Thanks, AspieUtah....how I got this far, I don't know.

There were many many times when - as the famous Beatles song goes - "I got by with a little help from my friends" (sometimes a lot). It was the most essential and effective means of support. I would have been cremated long ago without it.

All right, m8, calm down. Have a pat on the head from me for being such a hero.

I'm an HFA guy, and I find it hard to redirect my stims, sometimes don't even try. This doesn't seem very accurate.

Don't know what m8 is..have I just been insulted? Perhaps I was a bit excited, so I'll give you this one.

I'll I'm trying to say is that, if you want to have a certain life, you have to try to get it. I'm not being preachy or anything, it's just that it's sooooo easy to be overwhelmed and stop trying. Before you know it, you're 53 years old and it's a kid's world. Don't give up on yourself or your dreams.

One of the most admired people on this site, KoR, has a very difficult life and is profoundly disabled, but she's a beacon of light to a lot of people, me included. Doesn't have to be a job with pay, just something you love that contributes to the world so that you will not feel like you are nothing.

Ok, I'm done!

What's m8?

Where is our KoR?

m8 = mate. Eight sounds like ate, so put m + 8 together and you've got mate.

I like and admire KoR, but if you expect me to ever be a beacon of light, you're looking to the wrong person, m8. I don't "do" being inspirational.

That's not what I meant. Oh well it's not my job to tell you how to live anyway, all I meant though is that she does what she is passionate about and that's why it works for her. I wasn't telling you to follow her passion. But good luck with whatever you do!

I don't think kor is doing well. I hope I'm wrong.

I hope she is doing well, and if not, that she soon will be doing well. Such a valued member of WP.

I guess Level 0 be relabeled Autistic personality, Level 1 "Asperger-Autism', Level 3 "Kanners Autism" etc