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26 Dec 2014, 7:34 pm

She does have a distinctive way of putting things.

I'll tell you the truth, I wouldn't confront her directly with knowing who she is.



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26 Dec 2014, 8:15 pm

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I have serious misgivings about this sort of thread as well.

If the person whose username appears in the title actually participates in the thread, that's a fair indication that he or she has no objection to it. Otherwise....

I know I'd find it crucifyingly embarrassing if my own username appeared in a thread title. But I accept that the intentions of the people who initiate these sorts of things are generally good.

I'm pretty sure I read a post by KOR (with a different username) on another AS site quite recently, if anyone is interested.


This thread reminds me of a time, a long time ago when someone insulted KoR pretty badly (Which I realized in retrospect was just to get attention, which totally worked). About 10 of us came to her defense and it was a long drawn out thread. THe next day she came and saw it and was not very happy. She wasn't mad at us and understood why we did it, but I think the whole thing annoyed her. However, because of the current circumstance, i think she will understand the reason for this thread too, even if it does annoy her (which it might not at all for all I know).

That long thread did end up giving birth to a wonderful tradition called a cat parade though. Nobody ever does the cat parade any more though, sadly. It is basically, when threads deteriorate into nothing but fighting, you put an end to it by everyone posting the cutest cat pics they can find. Especially if there is one person who is trying to provoke everyone else, you just drown out the trolling with cats. Quite fun.



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26 Dec 2014, 8:54 pm

Cat parades sound great.

I will be leaving WP. I can't take the stress anymore. Sorry, NCOT, but you've kind of pushed me over the edge. It was great knowing you guys. Those of you who have been pming me Can still. But I can't deal with the stabs and jabs. Some people find it refreshing and I am happy that they can. I just find it way too exhausting. And I am having a hard time ignoring it especially the responses to my posts. It's great to be honest, it's a totally different thing to be mean and cruel in your honesty. If you can't tell the difference I am sorry for you. But I don't have the emotional stamina to continue to deal with that so I am leaving. Thank you all for everything you have done for me this past year and a half.

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26 Dec 2014, 8:58 pm

Skibum----Don't give in to the few! Don't leave, please!

You're a very valuable resource here.

The Many are what you should be concentrating on.

If you get a jab, I'll rub it and kiss it.



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26 Dec 2014, 9:04 pm

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People who know her well and have spent time in conversation with her have a deep respect for her and tend to like her very, very much. Considering what she has been through lately people who know her are concerned and really genuinely miss her. KOR has been one of the pillar members here who has always been super supportive and super helpful on WP. It is not surprising that so many people, including myself, really feel it when she is not here.


Or is it just people fondly imagining that they knew her well? The only living creatures KoR seemed to like and relate to were non-human ones.

Either way, this KoR cult is unnerving and, dare I say it, an exemplary example of group conformity. Whaddya know, AS folks ain't so different to NTs after all.


THis is absolutely true, and she's still so loveable! Dammit I wish I knew her secret! :D But you might be caught in that trap of thinking everybody has to be like everybody else or they are diminished. It's why a lot of people with Autism get shunned, I think. KoR is who she is and that's somebody pretty cool.



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26 Dec 2014, 9:21 pm

There were many times when she offered advice based upon objectivity. I think she had empathy--but maybe she didn't want to show it. She came from a tough background.



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26 Dec 2014, 9:46 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
There were many times when she offered advice based upon objectivity. I think she had empathy--but maybe she didn't want to show it. She came from a tough background.


Now you are just playing into their hands! Don't let them win!



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26 Dec 2014, 9:52 pm

I'm glad this thread was started. I feel that it's important to appreciate members that we have a connection with. I've learned a lot from you, KOR and I hope you have a Happy New Year as well. :)


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26 Dec 2014, 9:59 pm

Nope...I don't want to play into their hands; the hands have been in the muck too long.



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26 Dec 2014, 9:59 pm

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NiceCupOfTea wrote:
skibum wrote:
People who know her well and have spent time in conversation with her have a deep respect for her and tend to like her very, very much. Considering what she has been through lately people who know her are concerned and really genuinely miss her. KOR has been one of the pillar members here who has always been super supportive and super helpful on WP. It is not surprising that so many people, including myself, really feel it when she is not here.


Or is it just people fondly imagining that they knew her well? The only living creatures KoR seemed to like and relate to were non-human ones.

Either way, this KoR cult is unnerving and, dare I say it, an exemplary example of group conformity. Whaddya know, AS folks ain't so different to NTs after all.
I have thought about this response, Cup, and the more I think about it, I actually am having a hard time not thinking about it so I felt compelled to write this, but the more I think about it, the more disturbing it feels to me.

Those of us who have been here a little while or a long while feel very fondly of KOR. And I know full well as you do that Campin Cat's intentions in creating this thread were simply to encourage someone that we care about. And because of the situation that KOR was in when she left, it is good to encourage her.

But your statement in your post is really disturbing. It implies to me that someone who is an LFA who does not connect with others the same way that most people connect with each other is not capable of being loved or cared about like we care about KOR. Correct me please if I am misunderstanding you because that is a very strong and very seriously disturbing implication and I hope to be wrong about it.

The truth is that some of us do know her better than you do and we know how she connects to animals and how her connection to humans is very different from the norm. But to say that we are only imagining that we knew her well because she does not connect to people like others do, that implies that we did not know her and were only cared about an image we created about someone. That is really wrong and implies that you think that someone like her is incapable of being loved and cared for as she is. Please tell me that I am wrong in how I understand you because that is below low.



I responded to him before I saw this. I like your response better.



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26 Dec 2014, 10:38 pm

I am upset about what has happened to Skibum and not long ago almost did the same thing for the same reason. WP has got nastier. It doesn't have to be.



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26 Dec 2014, 10:54 pm

What was mean in this thread?
I looked through and didn't find it.


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26 Dec 2014, 11:00 pm

Starving Artist, KOR, Skibum, Dianthus - the casualty list is getting longer. Dianthus may return after a long break (or not).



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26 Dec 2014, 11:04 pm

Woah.

Been feeling washed out and drained today, so haven't posted much and this is the first time I've checked this thread.

skibum wrote:
I will be leaving WP. I can't take the stress anymore. Sorry, NCOT, but you've kind of pushed me over the edge. It was great knowing you guys. Those of you who have been pming me Can still. But I can't deal with the stabs and jabs. Some people find it refreshing and I am happy that they can. I just find it way too exhausting. And I am having a hard time ignoring it especially the responses to my posts. It's great to be honest, it's a totally different thing to be mean and cruel in your honesty. If you can't tell the difference I am sorry for you. But I don't have the emotional stamina to continue to deal with that so I am leaving. Thank you all for everything you have done for me this past year and a half.

Skibum


Well okay?

You're an adult, Skibum, you can do what you want to. If feeling sorry for mean old me makes you feel better, then feel free to pity me 'til the cows come home. It's condescending and patronising, much like the concept of this entire thread, but on the other hand it's not something I'll probably be losing any sleep over.

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I have thought about this response, Cup, and the more I think about it, I actually am having a hard time not thinking about it so I felt compelled to write this, but the more I think about it, the more disturbing it feels to me.

Those of us who have been here a little while or a long while feel very fondly of KOR. And I know full well as you do that Campin Cat's intentions in creating this thread were simply to encourage someone that we care about. And because of the situation that KOR was in when she left, it is good to encourage her.

But your statement in your post is really disturbing. It implies to me that someone who is an LFA who does not connect with others the same way that most people connect with each other is not capable of being loved or cared about like we care about KOR. Correct me please if I am misunderstanding you because that is a very strong and very seriously disturbing implication and I hope to be wrong about it.

The truth is that some of us do know her better than you do and we know how she connects to animals and how her connection to humans is very different from the norm. But to say that we are only imagining that we knew her well because she does not connect to people like others do, that implies that we did not know her and were only cared about an image we created about someone. That is really wrong and implies that you think that someone like her is incapable of being loved and cared for as she is. Please tell me that I am wrong in how I understand you because that is below low.


You what? Are you for real? Of course you are.

KoR herself has repeatedly said in her posts that she saw people as "objects". She very clearly did not mean it in the same sense that a manipulative sociopath would, but it was obviously a deliberately-chosen phrase. I remember reading it and thinking 'that's interesting': I wanted to know more about it.

KoR could dearly love her family, support workers, all of WP, etc. for all I know: if she came online and said that she did, I would believe her without question. What I don't believe is your emotionally manufactured outrage: that tells me nothing about KoR herself and more than I wish to know about you.

And now I really do need to go to bed: I've spent longer than I should replying to this drivel as it.



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26 Dec 2014, 11:08 pm

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Starving Artist, KOR, Skibum, Dianthus - the casualty list is getting longer. Dianthus may return after a long break (or not).


It's funny. You're acting like adults aren't adults, but puppets with no free will of their own. You go on about "empowering" people and yet you (and Skibum) turn them into dull-witted children. I have always felt something curiously smothering about this kind of huggy-wuggyiness, but couldn't explain why: now I think I can, at least partly.



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26 Dec 2014, 11:12 pm

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What was mean in this thread?
I looked through and didn't find it.


You asked a question! Are you trying to stress people out by asking them to think about something? You should be offering unconditional love, kisses, and hugs instead, you heartless uncaring monster.