Does Our Depression Come From Feeling Unloved / Shame ?

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What are you reading?

This is where I am stuck - resolving the problem. I've identified it, but am not sure what to do about it.

Androbot01, well, I do not know what your problem is. If you were interested, you could tell me about it, and I could write what I think about it.

I have read new articles about psychology, and reading how depression, anxiety, and PTSD, manifest themselves in individuals on the spectrum, because all these things work in a different way when you are on the spectrum. I am reading "The art of happiness". Apart of researchs, and what kraft recommened (I hope he would not mind that I shortened his username). Well, there are some interesting things in the book.

Hi Sherry,

A Hearty Good Morning to you (or is it afternoon where you are?)

I'm glad you're in a "good place" at this point.

In my opinion, it's always better to try to offer advice than remain apathetic, and not offer advice.

The mere "offering of advice" should not offend anybody.

Hi, kraftiekortie.

No, I am still in the same place. Well, I have not been asked for advice. Are you referring about the advice offering to something specific?

Thanks. I think I am at #6, bargaining, with the occasional slide back into depression.

By the Dalai Lama?
Buddhist philosophy has always appealed to me. "Zen and the Martial Arts" by Hyams is a great read.

I mean: that you don't seem as upset as you were yesterday.

I should have been more literal in my language. To be in a "better place" means that you're in a better mood.

You have lots of worthwhile things to say. Sometimes, people don't react to them well because it affects them emotionally. It might reveal something about themselves that they know needs to be changed--but they don't want anybody else to know about it, anyway!

Yes, by the Dalai Lama. I was reluctant to write it too, thinking of bad consequences that could happen. I am copying and pasting to myself the parts I like the most. I like some aspects of Buddhist philosophy too.....And, the stoics, and some aspect of others....

In the book, they say a lot of imagining yourself in someone´s else situation, the perspective of someone else without previous information about them, not knowing anything about them, but just doing that. I cannot do that.

I believe in some of the Stoic philosophy myself--especially as it pertains to enduring hardship.

kraftiekortie,

Oh. I see. I was not aware that I seemed that upset. My mood is the same, I just rather not complain... Yes, I have the tendency of getting things literally. It is the first time that someone tells me that I have lots of worthwhile things to say. From that reading in the book I mentioned, things are like that, it suggest to think this way: that it is just a test to develop more patience and resistance through difficulties. Instead, of thinking of them as just being unfair.

kraftiekortie again: I also like to read about philosophy to get new perspectives about how to deal with everything in general.

It's tricky to "put yourself in someone else's place." One never really knows what's going on in someone's mind.
I think it's good to try though, if only to be more aware of what's going on around you.
I'm better at it than I used to be, but it takes a lot of energy. Sometimes, just being aware that others have their own experience is enough.

That is PRECISELY how one must think in order to overcome difficulties.

One must make efforts to get them out of a place which is unsatisfactory to them. Sometimes, success doesn't come right away. Most of the time, when one makes the effort, success comes.

I have a strong apathetic side to me--which I must struggle with every day. This is why I believe I understand apathy well. And why I understand the value of effort.

Androbot01,

Well, I can imagine how it could be like, but from my perspective, and once I am provided with the information regarding whatever situation might be. Then, it is when I can have a reaction...Otherwise, I think it would not be accurate.

kraftiekortie:

What are you referring to, that that is precisely how one must think? Do you have apathy for some reason, or just towards something in special?

No...I am merely agreeing with your notion that people must make an effort to overcome difficulties.

Oh ok. I am not used to someone agreeing with me either.