New York Magazine article on over diagnosis from 2014

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04 Apr 2015, 6:13 am

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There is no such thing as aspergers/asspurges/assburgers as a diagnosis. So glad that era is over. Autism with levals of functioning is the way.


In America yes (though i'm sure the rest of the world will follow.) I think that is beside the point as ASD-1 is basically exactly the same thing, it is just a change of term, and everything Aristophanes said is still valid.


Very much so. I agree with Aristophanes completely (especially the part about asshats, which don't seem particularly fun to wear).

Which brings up another question. Does everyone think the DSM-V was right to eliminate Asperger's and group it in with autism? I've gone back and forth. I can see the many parallels, so I've been convinced they are part of the same neurological disorder, although autism proper has many more difficulties. Still, I currently think it is right to combine them. Do you prefer to be considered 'autistic' rather than 'Aspie?' Do you think they are separate enough to be their own disorders, as they were in the DSM-IV? My psychologist says she prefers the DSM-IV definition because, while autism and Asperger's are related, she sees enough differences to warrant a separation; she says Aspies have different needs than autistics with lower function. What does everyone think?



I think it doesn't much matter come October there will be a huge shift in how people are diagnosed again (in the U.S.). As they try to make a globally unified system of diagnosis. So then people can argue over how horrible that is. :roll:


what is happening in October? I think it is already more unified than people might think, even though in the UK we don't use DSM-V they have already stopped diagnosing AS in favour of ASD in anticipation of ICD changing



In October the U.S. will be switching to the icd-10 for all diagnostic codes. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/icd/icd10cm.htm which still has the separation of Aspergers from ASD. They have been planning this transition since July of last year October 1st is the "drop dead date". They are doing this so the same diagnosis in the US means the same thing in the UK and the same thing in Seychelles, etc.


Seems a strange time to do it as ICD-11 is due in 2017. I am certain ICD-11 will not have Aspergers as its own category but rather the broader ASD classification, the place where I was assessed in the UK (a well regarded centre that specialises in adult diagnosis) told me they have already stopped diagnosing aspergers in readiness. When I was looking to be assessed I emailed lots of different places and their replies never mentioned aspergers but rather ASD assessments.



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04 Apr 2015, 9:29 am

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Seems a strange time to do it as ICD-11 is due in 2017. I am certain ICD-11 will not have Aspergers as its own category but rather the broader ASD classification, the place where I was assessed in the UK (a well regarded centre that specialises in adult diagnosis) told me they have already stopped diagnosing aspergers in readiness. When I was looking to be assessed I emailed lots of different places and their replies never mentioned aspergers but rather ASD assessments.


I hope you're right. As cute as it is to be called an 'Aspie' and make jokes about ass-burgers, it really should just be ASD.


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04 Apr 2015, 9:30 am

Well it's not made up. They are switching it in the U.S. in October. Whether the ICD-11 comes out in two years or not makes no difference to their plans now. I'm sure when it does come out they will use it.



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04 Apr 2015, 10:24 am

NYMag.com wrote:
“Let’s keep calling ourselves Aspies,” Gabe says.

NYMag.com: "Autism Spectrum: Are You On It?" (May 12, 2014)
http://www.nymag.com/news/features/auti ... ndex6.html

I recognize that, clinically and diagnostically, Asperger's Syndrome is a part of the Autism Spectrum. But, I have never understood the desire to exclude the phrase from the common vernacular. As my example, supra, shows, some people will continue using the names of the supportive constructs that have become familiar to them, and offer them a sense of inclusion. Support groups, parental groups and advocacy groups will be loathe to change their names that give their clients that sense of community (and bring in the funding).

Personally, I prefer using accurate, not generalized, descriptions for myself. I am a man, not a human. I am a Utahn, not a "world citizen," and so on. Therefore, I use the phrase Aspie to describe myself. It is equal parts common and recognition of the contribution that Hans Asperger made to the study of autism by extending and expanding its otherwise Kanner development. His recognition through our use of the phrase is deserved.

So, while the DSM-5 and the ICD-10.X are consolidating diagnoses, I don't suspect that the communities they describe will quickly join the consolidation.


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