Many of you don't have free minds. why?

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It's not that complicated and it's not about wanting to be normal.

If you want to do something in a social environment, e.g., school or work or in a store or business or on a street in a town or city, then you are dealing with social expectations. Life experience teaches you that ignoring those expectations can have negative consequences like bad grades, losing your job, not getting served, or being run out of town on a rail.

Unless you are really going to live as a hermit, you have to find ways of dealing with people. Not being totally self-absorbed and blind to the expectations and feelings of others will improve the quality of your interactions with them.

Paste didn't work in copy and paste. Or copy didn't. It pasted something I had copied and pasted last night. I copied the post for this thread that wouldn't send because it quoted you and you had changed it before I posted and somehow it lost what I typed with your quote and put a PM in there. I took care of it.

I also forgot to say another thing that was in the failed copy and paste post, so I'll add it here. You are posting about how you want us to be as free as you and not care what people say, but you are all about some caring in your posts all over the place. Not stereotypical caring, but certainly not completely free from the bonds of society and only expressing yourself and also like from somewhere else not caring about being offended or offending.

You aren't even taking your own advice that you are putting others down for not doing.

If you didn't care about the boundries of society you wouldn't be doing quite a few things. It's easy to be a revolutionary when you are just listening to Beatles songs, but it's not very impressive.

I see.

Are you being facetious?

Facetious? Please explain plainly. I've never seen that word in my life lol.

I think your theory seems mostly right in my view but everybody's views are interesting

Thanks.

"Maybe that's so ... hmm" sounded a bit weird and I thought you might have been being sarcastic or hinting at something that flew right over my head.

Me too.

Facetious was the wrong word.

I used to be like that when I was a kid. It was amazing. I didn't care what anyone else thought of me, I liked who I was and that was enough. But I really started to change in high school. I didn't make any conscious effort to change but all the bullying I went through meant I withdrew a lot more, had to stop being myself around other people and started thinking about my actions and what behaviors were "correct" etc. It's probably a lot of other things as well. The longer you live in this world, the easier it is to be shaped by it.
It sounds so pathetic... Im sure my past self would hate this about me. But I try to be like that now and it just doesn't work. Having said that, though, there are some changes that were good. I never meant to be but I was really selfish. I always felt bad for it, so I'm mostly glad I'm not like that anymore.

And me. I've often noticed before that somebody will post something, I'll reply, and then I see posts objecting strongly to offensiveness or trolling in the original post, and I take another look and either I can't see anything trolly about the OP, or I can see a slight prickliness but can't understand why it would be enough to get a rise out of anybody. Yet in my thousands of posts I've hardly ever provoked any anger here myself, judging by the responses, so you'd think I'd know what trolling looked like.

Possibly. Alternatively there may be a suspicion of games being played with parts of language that might be easy for some people to miss, or just be very uncertain about. It may be that a literal interpretation is not always correct. Sometimes it's hard to know.

I am on disability.
On my diagnostic papers is written, that I have a highly idiosyncratic way of perception.
Now the psychiatrist wrote again, to prolong disability, that he does not see any arguments that I could fit into any working environment because of autism and highly idiosyncratic perception and because it is because of autism and cannot just go away.
My social contacts involve a friend who has mild autism himself and 2 Therapists and 1 Psychiatrist.
I do not initiate social contacts much, though if I do know a person well I do it sometimes.
I do not know if that is a free mind according to your definition.
To me it is not because I am trapped in autistic symptoms and comorbidities (like mindblindness, contextblindness, rigid thinking, dependant on routines, stimming, sensory issues, executive dysfunction all to impairing level).
I think, a free mind would not wanted to be trapped in anything.
There is that concept of "indigo-children" and I have read that "indigo-children" are supposed to have a "free mind".
"Indigo-children" do equate the symptoms of ADHD according to literature.

Anything other than a technically literal translation would have to be something emotionally based and generated in the subconscious of the brain. It's most often due to contamination of the subconscious by the hive-mind software that often got there subliminally. People have different levels of contamination based on how efficiently their brains copy the algorithms into the subconscious.
I can often see this kind of thing happening in my subconscious, but I have pretty extreme dissociation, so it gets heavily filtered and I often ignore it, so it doesn't have a significant bearing my my conscious thought.

An exception would be if I know for certain that the other person is communicating a message based on emotion and not just information.

Yes, passive aggression can be very difficult to prove or disprove objectively. It's very possible that I habitually brush gamey language aside and focus on the literal question. I'm sure people in real life have tried to insult me in such indirect ways, but have failed because I just reply dispassionately and literally to their comments, as if I'm completely blind to the insult, and they sometimes end up thinking I'm yanking their chain, which is beautifully ironic. But come to think of it, I'm not quite blind to it, I often see something, but it usually seems extremely weak, and I guess I overlook it in the same way as I would overlook a small child being petulant, it all seems so irrelevent that I can barely focus on it, or I see it as information about the insulter rather than information about me, I just think something like "poor chap's head is a bit messed up there, but anyway, what's he saying?"



Yes, I guess I work out what I can of the non-literal content by processing it in ways that I once had to learn consciously, even if they're often now so habitual that I hardly notice them. Being essentially a technical process, it would be like trying to offend a computer - the computer might be able to measure offensive content if it were programmed to, but it could only report the results, it couldn't feel them.

I suppose, in order to get a rise out of somebody, it's necessary to threaten their pride, their ego, or to otherwise scare them or touch a nerve. I suspect that my ego is rather a strange beast. I seem to be both arrogant and humble at the same time. I have plenty of fears, but it's possible that I'm too conscious of them to be vulnerable - I suspect that people with subconscious insecurities are much more prone to getting upset by a few brash words.

I can see how my relative immunity to game-playing could well be down to my autism having largely bucked the absorption of the mental apparatus required to be intuitively offendable - do you think that follows from what you've said, or have I misunderstood?

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