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20 Sep 2015, 7:49 pm

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The benefits for me are vastly improved quality of sleep and thus enough energy for work and exercise. Without it my sleep paralysis sporadically returns which is NOT fun.


OMG, I have to pick up a tincture sometime! I mean, I sleep pretty well right now but I haven't slept really well in years.



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20 Sep 2015, 8:27 pm

I've been keeping a bottle of indica tincture in my room...


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21 Sep 2015, 6:24 am

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It would be interesting to know the effects of things other than THC that are in MJ, like CBD, on ASD. I gather that CBD doesn't make you high (or does it?) and has positive effects for on various conditions.


CBD does not make you high. It's the high CBD/very low THC strains that they have been giving to children.



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21 Sep 2015, 10:54 am

Congratulations, Grue, and color me a little jealous. That is really awesome. I was just discussing that possibility with my therapist but I'm not sure about the laws here in Texas. I'm going to investigate it further.

I self-medicated with pot in high school (didn't know I had AS) and it worked wonders. My anxiety disappeared, my depression disappeared, my social skills improved, and music and food were never so fantastic! I quit pot abruptly in 1993 when I went on a wilderness survival course for 3 months and had a complete meltdown at the end of that trip. After that I became phobic of any medications or drugs. The last time I tried a hit was in 2007 or so and it didn't have the effect I recalled from my teenage years. In fact, I had a pretty bad panic attack. That was really depressing for me.

I'm hoping maybe I can find a mellow medical blend that will not be anxiety inducing. I'm sure someone is working on that.

Please keep us posted on your progress.



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21 Sep 2015, 11:20 am

just one hit or puff from something being passed around. Turn down all other offers for the next hour.

Don't hold it in. Just smoke it like a cigarette.

And if you do panic, crunch on some peppercorns. I hear it helps. Oh, and just remember you're in a safe place. Nowhere else on earth is safer than where you are right now.

I kind of envy you as a matter of fact. I miss me not having any tolerance. I mean, I'm still kind of a lightweight because I burned down an entire joint and took two hits off my bowl and I got pretty obliterated. i had amazing thoughts and reaffirmed my belief I'm an undereducated genius.

Anyway, yeah.



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21 Sep 2015, 11:58 am

Thanks for the advice. That's really interesting about peppercorns. I'll give it a shot.

In retrospect I'm thinking I should have never quit smoking pot. That's when my problems really started:)



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21 Sep 2015, 12:17 pm

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Thanks for the advice. That's really interesting about peppercorns. I'll give it a shot.

In retrospect I'm thinking I should have never quit smoking pot. That's when my problems really started:)


As they do. Never stop the ganj.



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21 Sep 2015, 4:39 pm

Lemon slices work for that too...


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21 Sep 2015, 4:51 pm

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I also have anxiety problems and social problems evidently, otherwise I would be going out on dates and married by now. I haven't been on a date either in several years. Have minimal friends - 3. I, however, could not go the marijuana route because I actually don't believe it's good for one's health and I also have a job which I would lose (along with my nurse's license) if I got drug tested. So I also believe in only the medical uses that its been designated for.


I agree. I also do not think it is good for one's health, especially certain parts of the brain over time:

http://www.medicaldaily.com/marijuana-u ... med-241869

That does not mean that I am totally against people using it. I will agree that it does have certain medical uses that should be allowed under controlled conditions, like an appetite gainer for severe cancer patients. However, it is often abused by people for other means that do not involve said medical uses, which is why it should be a restricted use drug...


That article is misleading and outdated any new evidence that's not directly produced/funded by the federal government finds there is no 'brain damage' from smoking marijuana. Not to mention that study doesn't say whether the marijuana smokers it used only use marijuana which makes it quite open to suspicion.

Also people use coffee for non-medical reasons, people drink beer for non-medical reasons and those aren't criminalized and marijuana is no worse than either of those, actually it shown to have less risk of causing health problems than both...having it a restricted use drug means people facing legal penalties and jail/prison time over a smoking a joint, or some plants which will screw your life up a lot more than marijuana use alone ever could.


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21 Sep 2015, 5:41 pm

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Congratulations, Grue, and color me a little jealous. That is really awesome. I was just discussing that possibility with my therapist but I'm not sure about the laws here in Texas. I'm going to investigate it further.

I self-medicated with pot in high school (didn't know I had AS) and it worked wonders. My anxiety disappeared, my depression disappeared, my social skills improved, and music and food were never so fantastic! I quit pot abruptly in 1993 when I went on a wilderness survival course for 3 months and had a complete meltdown at the end of that trip. After that I became phobic of any medications or drugs. The last time I tried a hit was in 2007 or so and it didn't have the effect I recalled from my teenage years. In fact, I had a pretty bad panic attack. That was really depressing for me.

I'm hoping maybe I can find a mellow medical blend that will not be anxiety inducing. I'm sure someone is working on that.

Please keep us posted on your progress.


Coulda just been the strain and your extremely low tolerance. I smoke as much as I can whenevr I can, but I still run across "anxiety" weed sometimes. Which is why it should be legal, so I know what the f*ck I am getting.

BTW, three month wilderness survival course? Three months in a row? Wow. Impressed. Sounds cool, no way I could hang.



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21 Sep 2015, 8:10 pm

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Here is my take on it:

If it is to be legalized nationwide, then the amount of THC should be restricted to at or below 3% (the level that it occurs in nature for that plant). Current forms have it at or above 30% THC, which is too potent (ie. increases the likely-hood of damage). It is a harmful drug when used inappropriately (proven with NMRI studies on human brains). As a chemist, I simply cannot advise that chemicals should be abused in that manner.


3%? If I am not mistaking that would make it weaker than the cheap dirt weed I used to get...no thanks. I think what is 'too potent' depends on the person and what they are using it for...nothing wrong with using less potent marijuana but as you say its a plant so how are people going to control exactly what % of THC the end product has anyways without chemically altering it after harvest? And also though......3%... :(


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21 Sep 2015, 8:42 pm

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I can understand about what you said - using it for a social situation, but when people say they are getting high A LOT, that says they aren't using it for the purpose they intended to use it for. To me, that's no better than an alcoholic. You can't perform a job when you're high, or drive a car or do anything else that takes responsibility. And it's illegal. And if it is legal in one's state that doesn't mean your employer wants you using it. Most reputable companies drug test and marijuana stays in the system at least 30 days.

You know, I read this one thing a long time ago that was about this study that had been done on alcohol and if it really does help people to be more social. What they found out is the ones that were given a placebo of what they thought was alcohol acted just as social as the ones who received alcohol. I wonder if the same outcome would happen with a marijuana study? :?



What is so wrong about using it to get high though....provided you don't perform a job or drive or anything else like that whilst high? Of course medicinal use and recreational use are different, but in my opinion neither one of them are wrong.


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21 Sep 2015, 8:48 pm

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Unless it were a matter or STRONG edibles, I'm not really sure how one would conduct a placebo study on marijuana - terpenes, the compounds responsible for the taste and smell have a lot of sorta Pavlovian effects on the overall feel of a given strain or extraction. Removing too many can leave the properties a bit 'one sided', though it does result in clearance sales on hash oil. :lol: Also, I really wouldn't say it makes me more social, more often than not marijuana' just a ritual that goes with homework or nature for me.


Yeah don't think you could do a placebo study with smoked marijuana....nothing else tastes like it or looks like it. Unless of course its people who haven't smoked or taken a close look at what it looks like.

Hmm even with edibles though they do have a distinct marijuana flavor though I guess placebo taste is possible for some if you're 100% convinced it's a marijuana edible beforehand.


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21 Sep 2015, 8:54 pm

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Coulda just been the strain and your extremely low tolerance. I smoke as much as I can whenevr I can, but I still run across "anxiety" weed sometimes. Which is why it should be legal, so I know what the f*ck I am getting.

BTW, three month wilderness survival course? Three months in a row? Wow. Impressed. Sounds cool, no way I could hang.


I definitely think the strain I sampled was really strong and my tolerance was nil. Good points.

I did an Outward Bound semester course (when I was 23) and it was pretty intense. Three months of sleeping on the ground and living outdoors was something I thought I could never do. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else with AS :) I did enjoy the simplicity of being out there but it was a bit much for me in the end. Set off a major meltdown and I was having crazy panic attacks. I did finish the course, though :D



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21 Sep 2015, 9:23 pm

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I can understand about what you said - using it for a social situation, but when people say they are getting high A LOT, that says they aren't using it for the purpose they intended to use it for. To me, that's no better than an alcoholic. You can't perform a job when you're high, or drive a car or do anything else that takes responsibility. And it's illegal. And if it is legal in one's state that doesn't mean your employer wants you using it. Most reputable companies drug test and marijuana stays in the system at least 30 days.

You know, I read this one thing a long time ago that was about this study that had been done on alcohol and if it really does help people to be more social. What they found out is the ones that were given a placebo of what they thought was alcohol acted just as social as the ones who received alcohol. I wonder if the same outcome would happen with a marijuana study? :?



What is so wrong about using it to get high though....provided you don't perform a job or drive or anything else like that whilst high? Of course medicinal use and recreational use are different, but in my opinion neither one of them are wrong.


You really are asking a nurse what is wrong with using drugs to get high?


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21 Sep 2015, 9:31 pm

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You really are asking a nurse what is wrong with using drugs to get high?


Yes, in fact I am...humans have been doing it for thousands of years, ingesting substances for their effects outside of medicinal use. So why is that in itself wrong? I can see why it's irresponsible and dangerous to do things like drive, operate machinery or do any kind of potentially dangerous work while high and I certainly do not condone that however.

What is your take on cats using catnip for its interesting physiological effects? it causes euphoria in them therefore gets them high so is it wrong for them to have catnip?


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