What do you find weird about neurotypicals?

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31 Mar 2018, 8:13 am

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1. Automatic deference to authority. A casual familiarity with how the world works should make it obvious that a person's job title or position means little in terms of intelligence or competence. If you want my respect, earn it.

I don't think deference has to mean the authority has the person's respect, but they know that challenging them will just mean that they can land themselves in trouble with them.

I know for a fact that there are definitely NTs who do not respect their bosses and are dubious about cops, without them letting on to the authority figures in question.


I guess you're right--for NTs. For myself, I don't hide my real feelings well and almost always say what I mean (see my point #4), so it doesn't apply to me. Which has led to trouble in the past.


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31 Mar 2018, 9:21 am

In college, thinking that all fun must include alcoholic beverages and getting stupid drunk



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31 Mar 2018, 9:57 am

I guess that sort of follows from the universal principle that you can’t ever enjoy studying or doing anything else with the main purpose of learning.

I guess their worries about being too into anything is why I’ve always struggled with the apparent moral duty to make sure I never do anything too well. No matter what you’re doing, it seems dishonorable if you don’t sabotage it yourself to some degree.

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1. Automatic deference to authority. A casual familiarity with how the world works should make it obvious that a person's job title or position means little in terms of intelligence or competence. If you want my respect, earn it.

2. Obsession with money. To the point that anyone who has managed to make a lot of it is regarded as a universal wise man, competent to speak on all topics. If Elon Musk said that we should expect a Venusian invasion within the next five years, newspapers would report it seriously and half the people who read it would panic.

3. Extreme concern with appearance, including brand of clothes, car, etc., and generally being acceptable to people they don't even know.

4. Not meaning what they say or saying what they mean, and expecting the same from me. If you want something from me, just tell me clearly. And don't assume my words have some hidden meaning.

5. Casual, easy lying.


And if you tell them that, they’re OFFENDED! Better be ready to face their wrath and its consequences.


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31 Mar 2018, 11:31 am

NT act and think more upon self-interest and short-term interest.

They would rarely act and think globally, as a system, hence long-term, independently from their present own interest.

However, thinking globally and independently from own interest may lead to a globally better system, which would have a great positive average impact on each individual.



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31 Mar 2018, 11:34 am

They also generally have an overrated self-esteem. They attribute the good things that happen to them to their own value, they just "deserve" it because they assume they are superior to average.



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31 Mar 2018, 8:02 pm

How they all seem to follow the same trends at once instead of being original.


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02 Apr 2018, 6:01 am

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I am so glad that I am unable to even notice what other people think of my choices a lot of the time, or I would not have developed such skills, interests and personal style.



That's a really interesting point! I feel as though "creative thought" (whatever the heck it means) is more likely to occur through a lack of awareness/silent acceptance of the rules of what things should be (i do think most people abide by rules through lack of internal questioning). That's why in a way, I am glad I never undertook formal training in art or music because doing so would have structured my output into the expected form or perhaps i would have rejected it. speculation. Mind you, i might have actually made music and art that people want to see and been more successful (maybe?) but also, how boring to just be another copied and pasted meme in a world of memes. i like to make my own parameters.


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02 Apr 2018, 6:05 am

LaetiBlabla wrote:
They also generally have an overrated self-esteem. They attribute the good things that happen to them to their own value, they just "deserve" it because they assume they are superior to average.


i dunno if this is a neurotypical or just arrogant rich human syndrome thing but i certainly automatically can't relate to people who preach and boast about their achievements and tell others "you could do the same if you do x,y,z" as if everyone wants to be them because they are better and greater


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02 Apr 2018, 6:46 am

Ok for me it’s like why do you say one thing and mean another or like when you ask them to explain you or show you something it’s not thorough enough or detailed or in general they just vaguely know what they’re talking about and use opinions as facts.



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02 Apr 2018, 9:00 am

fact Anything I say.
opinion Anything you say.


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02 Apr 2018, 5:55 pm

How they loathe us and adore psychopaths.



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02 Apr 2018, 6:36 pm

When they're very interested in something, it's a hobby. But if we're really interested in something, it's an obsession. Even if it's the same interest the NT has.

That they see autism as trendy and a good excuse for rude behavior (when many autistic people are always worried they'll sound rude and apologize in advance in case they are), and yet use it to insult anyone they perceive as slow, stupid, or just plain cringeworthy.

When they' say you should always be yourself, but when we are being ourselves they want us to stop.

When they claim to be a unique, individual person... just like all the other people in the "group" they belong to.

That when we don't understand them, that's our fault. And when they don't understand us, that's our fault, too.
In fact, everything is our fault. :roll:

That they feel it is totally okay to tease or bully anyone for something they can't help having, or being.

That it's okay to hate teenagers because they're to blame for all the world's problems or whatever, but if you don't like little kids then you must be a completely evil person like Miss Trunchbull from Matilda. But kids can be unbelievably cruel and nasty little snot rags with no sense of right and wrong, not these innocent little angels all too many of their parents seem to think, if they think at all. At least in The Sims 3 and 4 adults can have a trait where they don't like children but they can have other traits that are positive. They just get in a stressed mood when around kids or kid-friendly items. Which is why I couldn't give the Sim I modeled after myself the Hates Children trait because it conflicts with the Childish trait and I wanted my Sim to like and play with toys and stuffed animals like I do. And maybe I don't *totally* hate kids, but you know... :?



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03 Apr 2018, 11:04 am

And one more thing: how much they care about how people are talking, and how little - what they are talking.



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03 Apr 2018, 3:43 pm

Almost everything. Nothing they do is based on logic, just random unwritten social rules. Here are some weird things they do I find especially irritating:

-Hire people based on who they like rather than who can do the job the best
-Mirroring. I never understood the whole "yawns are contagious thing" yet I've seen it in action all the time. I notice when NTs mirror me...I'll be sitting a certain way and they'll sit the exact same way.
-Look at me like I have three heads if my tone or body language is "off." If I look tired, they stare at me like they're terrified of the sight of me.
-Constant fake coughing
-Sit right next to me when they could have sat anywhere else
-The way they say, "watch out for the quiet ones." How many times do they have to be told the crazy sociopaths have GREAT social skills and will be the loudest, "friendliest" ones??



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03 Apr 2018, 5:14 pm

ResilientBrilliance wrote:
How many times do they have to be told the crazy sociopaths have GREAT social skills and will be the loudest, "friendliest" ones??

And most people absolutely love them. If there is a single most stupid thing in the world, it's probably this one.



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03 Apr 2018, 5:17 pm

The lying and false certainty are about the only irritants I don't also find around here very much.