Are Americans really more prejudiced?

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Where foreigners start to colonize a place, they act suspicious of the locals, harass, and try to give them a bad name, as a means of ethnic cleansing.

You are either geographically separated from the worse areas, or blissfully ignorant.

I would be happier, inside, not to know the truth.

I stand up straight, have a developed chest, shoulders, and shoes that take a shine. I am taken to be serious, at all times, well-liked by fascistic types, who tell me which people called the police on me. Your tips were not anonymous.

It does matter who you live with.

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I go to work every day. In New York City. On the subway.

Haven't been harassed by a cop in years.

Having to show your receipt when leaving Home Depot can be aggravating.

We're not perfect.....but we're not Nigeria, or even France for that matter.

In France, everyone must always carry their "papers." If we're not driving, we are not required to carry ID.

Calais is in France?

Yep....right across the English Channel from Dover.

There's also a Calais in Maine, but it's pronounced "Ca-lays."

Yeah but The Guess Who is still the only all Canadian act listed so far

Patriotism was not at an all time low where I lived in 1970. American Flags and "America Love It Or Leave It" decales and bumper stickers were everywhere. Sure the kids had long hair, listened to acid rock, and did drugs but they voted for Nixon. My neighborhood was quite representitive of America. A Gallup poll taken right after Kent State showed 31 percent of respondents had no opinion, 11 percent blamed the National Guard and 58 percent of the respondents blamed the students. And Nixon won two years later in one of the biggest landslides in history which was largly a referendum on the anti war protests/counterculture.

So maybe patriotism was not more important then a good song, the protesters went out and bought the record on mass, or maybe misygonists liked the lyrics.

I don't really think of The Hippy types as 'Free Thinkers'. They seemed more the ultimate escapists. Hide from life with drugs. Hide from their obligation by getting a college deferment and if that didn't work escape... to Canada. They listened to and followed the most screwed up bunch of wack jobs we've seen in a while. Or got their instructions by playing records backwards.

I watched them closely. I was just a bit younger. And I don't blame them for being frightened of going to Vietnam. Wars are all bad but some are more terrible then others, and Vietnam was just plain scary. I grew up just wanting to join the Marines and did eventually make my career in the military. But I came out of seeing the movie 'The Green Berets' (which was not an anti-war movie) scared s**tless. Who was the enemy?, booby traps and death in every direction. I wasn't very religious by this point but literally prayed that war was over before I came of age.

Maybe the stones best song. Props especially to Keith Richards and Merry Clayton for amazing intro riff and vocals. Mick Jagger later said of it "Well, it's a very rough, very violent era. The Vietnam War. Violence on the screens, pillage and burning. And Vietnam was not war as we knew it in the conventional sense. The thing about Vietnam was that it wasn't like World War II, and it wasn't like Korea, and it wasn't like the Gulf War. It was a real nasty war, and people didn't like it. People objected, and people didn't want to fight it..." As for the song itself, he concluded, "That's a kind of end-of-the-world song, really. It's apocalypse; the whole record's like that."

Excellent video mostly from around Tet. Lost a cousin then. My only thought watching this stuff is what brave guys (and women) they were in such a difficult situation.

Hense the expression "the Wogs begin at Calais"( Calais is at the closest point on the European mainland coast from Great Britain ergo "the riff raff all start at Calais".

Your memories are a lot different then mine. I was growing up in the upper mid-west at that time. From my memory there was exactly four places you could normally see an American flag. On the Elementary School, and the High School (on school days), the City Hall, and the Court House (during business hours). In addition in front of most all businesses on American national holidays (never at other times). Politically everybody in the town was either a moderate Democrat or moderate Republican. The Democrats had a slight edge, but Republicans could still get elected. There were no long haired protesters in the town, but the Democrats and the Republicans alike pretty much unanimously agreed that we had to get the f**k out of Vietnam.

The last time I visited the town 25 years ago, it had turned into a rightwing Republican fascist s**thole, with faded American flags flying 24 hours a day from half the houses in town, as well as from most pickup trucks. The United States has changed greatly in my lifetime, and not for the better. American politics has made a U-Turn. If the US was fighting World War 2 today, I have no doubt we would be allies with the Nazis. Why not? American nationalism today is almost identical to that in Nazi Germany.

I think the Nazi comparison is overdoing it a wee little bit.

We would have destroyed the Nazis, like we did 70 years ago.

The freer a society is, the freer its citizens are to give their prejudices free rein

Too bad they don't make those anymore. Maybe you can get some made in China. Cause the modern extremist types are real buttholes.

No, it is not overdoing it. Study history man.

George Bush's grandfather Prescott Bush had his company's assets seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, because he was doing business with the Nazis. Do you really think that would have happened if the Bush scumbags had been president at the same time? Hell no, they would have been making peace with the Nazis. If you really believe that they would have been seizing their own families' assets, you are crazy. That is aside from the fact that the Republican ideology is one and the same with the Nazis.

During WW2 we were seizing the assets of Nazi sympathizers. 50 years later we were electing them president.

American then like now was a big ole diverse place. Like I mentioned in the police thread my neighboorhood was a police/firemen neighboorhood. A lot of WWII vets. People were unhappy with the "half assed" way the war was bieng fought but these people grew up with the '"good war" and when Uncle Sam called you went no questions asked. The protesters were considered traitors and spoiled rich ones at that. Now it is the opposite everything the goverment does is a conspiracy or done for neferious reasons.

The lack of patriotism you described was what it was like after the Vietnam and during and after Watergate and until the Iran hostage crises.

Getting back on topic like now some plenty of people were prejudiced but far from everybody. The only difference was it was a lot more out in the open as "political correctness" was not an expression never mind a thing.