If you had the chance to cure you're Autism would you?

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11 Jul 2016, 8:32 am

I'd happily get rid of the problems with executive functioning*, because those are terrible, even if they mean I get to take stimulants. The other symptoms don't bother me nearly as much, but they're a lot milder than when I was younger. A certain amount of the obsessive stuff is useful, so I wouldn't completely obliterate that sphere, but I need to learn how to moderate it.

*Which are now diagnosed as ADHD, but the two are associated strongly enough that it's hard to fully separate them.



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13 Jul 2016, 11:19 am

Am I the only one here who would enjoy NT things like playing in team sports, enjoying women, and hanging out with people chatting about useless stuff and realizes ASD gets in the way?


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17 Jul 2016, 9:34 pm

johnnyh wrote:
Am I the only one here who would enjoy NT things like playing in team sports, enjoying women, and hanging out with people chatting about useless stuff and realizes ASD gets in the way?
The main things that bother me are (1) not having a girlfriend and (2) needing stimulants for anything like a normal level of executive functioning. I've learned how to make regular friends, but I've never accomplished anything closer.



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18 Jul 2016, 8:36 am

Adenosine wrote:
johnnyh wrote:
Am I the only one here who would enjoy NT things like playing in team sports, enjoying women, and hanging out with people chatting about useless stuff and realizes ASD gets in the way?
The main things that bother me are (1) not having a girlfriend and (2) needing stimulants for anything like a normal level of executive functioning. I've learned how to make regular friends, but I've never accomplished anything closer.


Yeah, it seems all the anti-cure types are content not having a large social circle, getting a bit of women/man for fun, watching action flicks, becoming one of the dudes etc.

They prefer to belong to a hipster pro-austism subculture where they enjoy being asexual, not caring when people notice how "slow" they are at the workplace due to poor executive function and their intellectual impairment, while collecting pokemon cards and coding or working as part of some special interest like repairing car engines and spending their free time browsing the internet collecting trivia over some new special interest.

The dudes don't realize Einstein's brain autopsy showed he has the most anti-austic brain there is, all the stuff smaller in an autistic's brain was enlarged, and all the stuff bigger was smaller!
Many of these guys think they are gifted due to their aspergers because of their little professor stage they went through in their young, but their peers man, they knew how weird and creepy the guys were. Being able to memorize tons of trivia and facts doesn't equal being gifted! Man my childhood was miserable! I could have been making friends and kicking tail!

Guys, I'm no nintendo nerd planning to spend the rest of my life coding behind a desk! I wanna be out there having fun, I want my brain to be clear as crystal! It hurts like hell to be mentally addicted to any special interest which causes horrific mental pain like any drug addict! In fact nobody ever seems to mention the sheer horrific brain fog and sensory overloads that make life hellish, wouldn't anyone want to feel chill inside like an NT person normally is? Never being obsessed nor getting close to a meltdown if a routine is changed?

viewtopic.php?t=122615
The guy seems to mention the promises shown by certain substances, I'm gonna be following his other log about how he tries different substances to deal with his aspergers. Being conscius all the time makes me super exhausted, I just wanna fee

So to my fellow posters, I say be a little hedonistic, if you had horrific migraine all the time, wouldn't you wanna see them gone? No aspergers, no mental and physical suffering 24/7. Plus most people think of the autistic subculture as kinda being lame. Why not be individuals for once? Does cancer define our personalities? If you let someone know you have aspergers/autism, they will never look at you the same the same way revealing you are gay to somone will make them think of you as the "queer guy" and ignore all your individuality which I truly want to shine.


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I want to apologize to the entire forum. I have been a terrible person, very harsh and critical.
I still hold many of my views, but I will tone down my anger and stop being so bigoted and judgmental. I can't possibly know how you see things and will stop thinking I know everything you all think.

-Johnnyh


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18 Jul 2016, 11:50 am

Stop Stereotyping all anti cure people. I am not asexual, never have played Pokeyman, like to watch action flicks (The chase scene in The French Connection is still the best) and team sports and would have joined teams if I was not a klutz.

I am skeptical of retrodiagosing historical figures as Autistic. But it works the other way also. While Einstien's brian has been preserved science is not close to understanding what an Autistic brian looks like so I doubt it has been definitively proved Einstien was not autistic. If you have evidence otherwise please post a link.

Reading disclosure posts on WP since 2013 the reaction people have gotten is widely varied. There was a recent thread on WP on autistic culture and the vast majority of posters do not believe there is one and do not want one. So I doubt to many NT's think that an Autistic culture autistics are skeptical of is lame, never mind existing at all.


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18 Jul 2016, 11:54 am

I like how I am because of Aspergers, but the last few years have been hard. I have such problems with bright lights that I have to wear sunglasses year round. And not the normal kind but the sunglasses you wear while skiing. I have to wear them everywhere. My house is a bunker with the blinds closed all the time.
Even at night I can't go out. Carlights and lampposts are blinding me and giving me a terrible headache.
I have headaches all the time. Always. I wake up with it and go to bed with it. I don't know what living without headach is.

My sense of smell is so good I can't stand any type of smell. I can't stand smoke or parfum - they make me sick. But I also can not stand flowers or freshly cut grass.

My hearing keeps bothering me so much. I keep wishing I was deaf.

So if that is really all Aspergers-related, I would dump the Aspergers immediately.



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18 Jul 2016, 12:05 pm

I think my Aspergers is the reason for my high IQ and academic success. I am often able to solve problems faster than other people and come up with more efficient solutions. It also gives me extreme interest in certain topics where I can hone my skills and become great. My sensory issues tend to be fairly minor and things that I can control and cope with. The main problem with Aspergers for me is lack of social skills and communication. I have serious trouble making and keeping friends, and getting into romantic relationships seems almost impossible. I also get a lot of anxiety in social situations.

If I could just cure my social problems and be able to make friends and get romantically involved, I'd feel a lot better about myself.



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18 Jul 2016, 5:28 pm

The answer should always be yes IMO.

And I'm not here to judge anyone, but coming from how the human species work, if all of us were Autistic and shy away from social interaction, we would not be here today.

Humans evolved because our ancestors (you know, when they look like apes) formed social connections and we had to look out for each other's back against all forms of danger. We also needed one another to track down our preys. Even today, great leaders - no mater on what scale (from country to corporate world), emphasize on *effective* team work and rely on each other to get things done.

On the flip side, we might have reached a stage where people fancy communicating over the internet over real life interaction and some people would rather text text text than talk on the phone. ASD, HFA etc might be a genetic response to our environment and it might be where we are heading next.



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18 Jul 2016, 5:36 pm

johnnyh wrote:
Adenosine wrote:
johnnyh wrote:
Am I the only one here who would enjoy NT things like playing in team sports, enjoying women, and hanging out with people chatting about useless stuff and realizes ASD gets in the way?
The main things that bother me are (1) not having a girlfriend and (2) needing stimulants for anything like a normal level of executive functioning. I've learned how to make regular friends, but I've never accomplished anything closer.


Yeah, it seems all the anti-cure types are content not having a large social circle, getting a bit of women/man for fun, watching action flicks, becoming one of the dudes etc.

They prefer to belong to a hipster pro-austism subculture where they enjoy being asexual, not caring when people notice how "slow" they are at the workplace due to poor executive function and their intellectual impairment, while collecting pokemon cards and coding or working as part of some special interest like repairing car engines and spending their free time browsing the internet collecting trivia over some new special interest.

The dudes don't realize Einstein's brain autopsy showed he has the most anti-austic brain there is, all the stuff smaller in an autistic's brain was enlarged, and all the stuff bigger was smaller!
Many of these guys think they are gifted due to their aspergers because of their little professor stage they went through in their young, but their peers man, they knew how weird and creepy the guys were. Being able to memorize tons of trivia and facts doesn't equal being gifted! Man my childhood was miserable! I could have been making friends and kicking tail!

Guys, I'm no nintendo nerd planning to spend the rest of my life coding behind a desk! I wanna be out there having fun, I want my brain to be clear as crystal! It hurts like hell to be mentally addicted to any special interest which causes horrific mental pain like any drug addict! In fact nobody ever seems to mention the sheer horrific brain fog and sensory overloads that make life hellish, wouldn't anyone want to feel chill inside like an NT person normally is? Never being obsessed nor getting close to a meltdown if a routine is changed?

viewtopic.php?t=122615
The guy seems to mention the promises shown by certain substances, I'm gonna be following his other log about how he tries different substances to deal with his aspergers. Being conscius all the time makes me super exhausted, I just wanna fee

So to my fellow posters, I say be a little hedonistic, if you had horrific migraine all the time, wouldn't you wanna see them gone? No aspergers, no mental and physical suffering 24/7. Plus most people think of the autistic subculture as kinda being lame. Why not be individuals for once? Does cancer define our personalities? If you let someone know you have aspergers/autism, they will never look at you the same the same way revealing you are gay to somone will make them think of you as the "queer guy" and ignore all your individuality which I truly want to shine.
The special interests are probably the least unfortunate of all the primary symptoms. I understand that they can get pointed in questionable directions, but the "memorize lots of facts" side is not the primary opponent.



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18 Jul 2016, 5:39 pm

Probably not, but if I could do it over again....I wouldn't have gone to college and would have tried to just get a job.


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18 Jul 2016, 5:45 pm

Asperger's/autism is a real pain in the tushey sometimes.

But I wouldn't want to be "cured" totally. I would want my negative symptoms treated, though.

Anyway...like the Common Cold, it can't be "cured."



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19 Jul 2016, 1:27 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Asperger's/autism is a real pain in the tushey sometimes.

But I wouldn't want to be "cured" totally. I would want my negative symptoms treated, though.

Anyway...like the Common Cold, it can't be "cured."



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This guy seems to have had some success with the negative symptoms. No horrific mental brain fog.
If you think about it, a person with asperger's mental state of mind is like a drug addict unable to get a fix.
The mental torture! The laziness! The constant need for dopamine! Unable to walk down the street feeling chill! Not being able to stand in line without every single moment jabbing like a needle!


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I want to apologize to the entire forum. I have been a terrible person, very harsh and critical.
I still hold many of my views, but I will tone down my anger and stop being so bigoted and judgmental. I can't possibly know how you see things and will stop thinking I know everything you all think.

-Johnnyh


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19 Jul 2016, 9:57 am

johnnyh wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Asperger's/autism is a real pain in the tushey sometimes.

But I wouldn't want to be "cured" totally. I would want my negative symptoms treated, though.

Anyway...like the Common Cold, it can't be "cured."



viewtopic.php?t=122615
viewtopic.php?t=122297

This guy seems to have had some success with the negative symptoms. No horrific mental brain fog.
If you think about it, a person with asperger's mental state of mind is like a drug addict unable to get a fix.
The mental torture! The laziness! The constant need for dopamine! Unable to walk down the street feeling chill! Not being able to stand in line without every single moment jabbing like a needle!


You obviously dont have aspergers yourself. And I cant figure out what condition you have aspergers confused with.



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19 Jul 2016, 11:07 am

naturalplastic wrote:
johnnyh wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Asperger's/autism is a real pain in the tushey sometimes.

But I wouldn't want to be "cured" totally. I would want my negative symptoms treated, though.

Anyway...like the Common Cold, it can't be "cured."



viewtopic.php?t=122615
viewtopic.php?t=122297

This guy seems to have had some success with the negative symptoms. No horrific mental brain fog.
If you think about it, a person with asperger's mental state of mind is like a drug addict unable to get a fix.
The mental torture! The laziness! The constant need for dopamine! Unable to walk down the street feeling chill! Not being able to stand in line without every single moment jabbing like a needle!


You obviously dont have aspergers yourself. And I cant figure out what condition you have aspergers confused with.
The brain fog could be co-morbid ADHD and depression. His other complaints fit neatly into the sensory and obsessive spheres, albeit colored very negative.



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19 Jul 2016, 1:37 pm

saxgeek wrote:
I think my Aspergers is the reason for my high IQ and academic success.


Why do you think Asperger's caused those things? You have probably gone to school with plenty of NTs who had just as high of an IQ and were just as successful, but without Asperger's. I think I would have done better in school without it.



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19 Jul 2016, 1:42 pm

I disagree somewhat, John. Though I don't totally disagree.

People with Asperger's, if studying their Special Interest, usually attain very high status within their chosen field. They are more focused than "NT's." They don't do the beer-bong thing, and all the other college hi-jinx.

Asperger's COULD have caused someone to have a high IQ, etc.