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12 May 2007, 2:40 am

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why are there so many <snip> want to be none of you would be aborted because your not autistic


Sir.

I have taken the liberty of mailling you a full box of assorted punctuation marks. Feel free to use it to salt and pepper your rants with great liberality.

I would also suggest that you take issue with your various parental units and educators in failing to teach you the location of the enter key. It is found on the right side of your keyboard. When you have located that, we can discuss the wonders of the magical paragraph. You will find its usage greatly assists in honing the edge of your inarticulate rage.

Also, If I may be so daring, I suggest that you no longer hold your breath while typing. While the color blue is indeed a noble thing, the drawbacks of a lack of oxygen degrade the effectiveness of your otherwise witty post. An exhalation now and then is a good indicator of when to use the afore mentioned commas and periods.

You come here with your vitriol(EF!), spewing your bile and nonsense around, all righteous and indignant, and then you attempt to use a low IQ as a shield... you get no mercy. You dont get to play that game.

You are not THAT dumb. I dont care what some piece of paper says. I dont care what your parents and teachers think. You dont get a pass to act like a sanctimonious punk, bowing before the umbral grail of your disabilities.



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12 May 2007, 2:52 am

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You dont get a pass to act like a sanctimonious punk, bowing before the umbral grail of your disabilities.


I wouldn't judge someone with too much condescending condensation when you've yet to see where he resides; this may be how he's learnt to interact with humanity due to how humanity has treated him, and I wouldn't blame him for expecting everyone else to be the same as those he's seen prior; it's not "right" when people throw around blanket statements due to misunderstanding, but in reality I've never known any different from people "out there". He may be the same; he might not be.

Perhaps I would have interacted the exact same way when I was in high school...it's perfectly justifiable given the situation, and it’s a survival mechanism, trust no one and assume the worst of everyone.

It's best not to reflect when dealing with people such as this when the full story isn't known.



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12 May 2007, 3:06 am

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dictionaries rule ^_^


My second favourite tome next to the Encyclopedia (World Book).


As for the OP...yes, I have had many a day when I wished to be a part of the normal flow of things. "Someone to hold me" and overcoming my aversion to touch, and all of that. Going out for a few beers with my chums. Holding down a 9-5. You know....the stuff you see on tv. Other days, like when I can sit at the piano and let the hours flow by as I regurgitate note after note of classically-inspired music despite my complete lack of formal training...then no, I wouldn't want a cure for all the world.

Honestly, I'm torn and in awe of this thing.

I really hope it is all a ruse for attentin, though. That way I won't get overwhelmed and lose consciousness, hitting the ground so hard that I now need reconstrutive facial surgery.

See...no one was around when that happened aspie17. I have to live in pain and eat through a straw. Maybe If it was all fake I would have had better timing, so an audience could have been arranged to see me have a seizure.

Then they could have filmed it, posted it on youtube and I would be the world's most famous emo.

Sorry to disappoint you dude. I am AS and am learning to live with that fact. Maybe one day you can live with the fact that I have AS as well.

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12 May 2007, 3:13 am

that is most true get some help for yourself ask who ever diagnosed you what it actually means or if you can't look on the net and you will find answers that it's called Autistic Spectrum Disorders for a reason becasue any one with this can be anywhere on the spectrum it ranges from Kanner's Syndrome, which usually coexiists with low IQ, to Asperger's Syndrome which is the milder form of Autism. and of cause there is High Functioning Autism. On the spectrum there is ADD/ADHD, Dyspraxia, Dyslexia, Childhood Discrative Disorder, Retts Disorder, Fragile X Syndrome and there is allso alot more as well. and the low IQ which some times coexisits with a diagnosis is called Global Intellectual Impairment the old term is mental retardation. it is a completly different disability to what ASD is. So hopefully this will help you.



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12 May 2007, 3:17 am

Sorry Gabrielle...are you speaking to me, or the OP?

I tend to get lost in my own monolouge. I'm practicing being a better listener. :)


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12 May 2007, 4:01 am

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why are there so many self dignosed attention whores its obvous that you have a asd because of all the BS you say about not wanting to be cured if you actuly had aspergers you would want to be cured being a social ret*d with a low iq isnt somthing to be proud of you dont have anthing wrong with you your just a geek with bad social skills and no emotions you read the dsm and think you have aspergers because we have bad social skills but you dont have aspergers i have the real disese i wish i was cured unlike you i also have emotions and feelings i just struggle to express them if you all had aspergers ud have no friends be a soicial ret*d
fail at school be unable to concentrate for more than 2 seconds never have a girlfriend be unable to spell for sh** useless at maths
have evryone hate you and be a all round spazz the worst part is you actualy say stuff that could make my life worse like saying that people with aspergers like being alone i hate being alone and theres more but im to stupid to remember what becaus i have aspergers syndrom and im not proud of it i hate it i hate being special i wish i was normal i hope they make the prenatal test i wish i hadnt been born only people with autism and aspergers will be aborted and we want to be none of you would be aborted because your not autistic


So, how exactly is this insividual qualified to DX and pass judgement on others? ASD is a spectrum, no-one is in the exact same place on it, the point being, everyone here is on it somewhwere.


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12 May 2007, 5:05 am

I certainly would diagnose myself as an
attention whore. :P



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12 May 2007, 5:33 am

The problem with giving him the benefit of the doubt is that one would have to assume this guy chose to attack us with all the stereotypes we most resent by accident. What are the odds of that?

Not to mention if he was on the spectrum himself he would know what the symptoms are and that half of what hes spewing is nonsense regardless of his place in said spectrum.

As for his latest gibberish lets break it down line by line (for your reference Aspie17 the parts in quotes are called sentences and should begin with a capital letter and end with a period).

aspie17 wrote:
all your problems are your own fault


Isn't this true of everyone though?

aspie17 wrote:
your just a emo who has no social skills not because your autistic but because you choose not to talk to people


Isn't being an "emo" contradictive to the autistic stereotype you were quoting earlier? I believe it was "emotionless" or something to that effect? I have learned social skills from talking to people. Its a necessary skill for survival in this world. Contrary to what you may believe most of us have semi-normal lives and have to talk to people on a daily basis. Sure it may be severely mentally draining to do so but we don't have a choice. It would be very nice to be able to simply choose not to talk to people and be done with it but reality isn't that accommodating.

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i try to talk to people but cant


You'll have to be more specific. You cant talk at all? You are too afraid to talk to people? In any case if what you say is true thats not a symptom of aspergers syndrome or even HFA. Your the exception not the rule.

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why dont you start makeing eye contact and go talk to someone


We do. Every day. That doesn't make it any easier or less unpleasant.

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because you dont want to be a so called nt you want to be special


If we had been born "normal" we wouldn't have any complaint. But since we were born autistic we don't have a choice. Many of us have lived horrible painful lives because of it. If thats what it means to be "special" why would anyone choose that? Most of us have learned to accept the hand we have been dealt and even enjoy some of the benefits our unique brain structures give us. If we could keep what we have and a cure could be administered that would give us normal social skills without taking away our other abilities and without fundamentally altering our personalities most of us wouldn't hesitate to take it.

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why dont you find some other disorder to pretend to have


I would love to.. if I were pretending. Why would anyone want to pretend to have something so few people can understand? If we were doing it for sympathy why not choose something a lot more ghastly like leukemia? If we were doing it for some sort of freedom from responsibility for our actions why not something more fun like coprolalia where we can scream obscenities in peoples faces without repercussions? I'm certain for someone who's not actually suffering from the condition it would be a blast.

But no.. you believe we are pretending to have something that most people on earth still believe is another word for mentally ret*d? Why would we want to do that?



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12 May 2007, 5:43 am

well im not gonna read all this thread, but what i will say is that there a quite a few people getting real defensive about it.
I read the OPs first post before anyone replied and my first thought was troll too.
But, you know, i dont really like to jump to conclusions quick especially because im a bad judge.
I think this guy may have a point somewhere.



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12 May 2007, 5:45 am

i mean there are a lot of AS-self-diagnosed people who are attention whores around here.



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12 May 2007, 5:49 am

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i mean there are a lot of AS-self-diagnosed people who are attention whores around here.


But then there are many doctor diagnosed ones who are as well.

I think its more a matter of overcompensating for being constantly ignored in verbal conversations than any real fraud.



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12 May 2007, 5:50 am

Fraya,

The stereotypes are me; and I don’t see myself as an exception to the autism spectrum; the originator of this thread may’ve been misdiagnosed as AS for a multitude of reasons rather than HFA/LFA. I try to talk to people but I cannot, the words don’t leave my mouth, I cannot look into the eyes of people, I can barely stand in the presence of people without jumping out of a window…. I’m terrible at spelling, I have to write everything in MS Word and paste it over, I’m terrible at math…, everything to do with learning; in fact I'm pretty much terrible at objective "life". I just have insight due to going from "there" (where I was full of hate) to "here" where I'm a little more understanding of others.

The only problem with this individual is that he sees himself as a “true” AS when in fact it’s a spectrum from “this” to “that”... perhaps he’s unable to see this due to his mental retardation, he doesn’t want to see this because he’s a “jerk” or he cannot see through the amount of hate that is clouding his vision due to his life.

The door swings both ways...or so the NT world says.



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12 May 2007, 5:53 am

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by the way my iq is 88 and 90 on some tests


And it really shows too, you moron.


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12 May 2007, 5:53 am

Good point. But still its hard for us to understand and help someone who doesn't want to understand us and meets us with only hostility.



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12 May 2007, 5:57 am

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I think its more a matter of overcompensating for being constantly ignored in verbal conversations than any real fraud.


well, maybe you are right, i never looked at it that way before, but i have seen absolutely no evidence to make such an assessment either way.



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12 May 2007, 6:01 am

i have also been accused of being rude (on more than one occassion ), by people in these forums.
Well, that may be true, people can make up their own judgement.
But for what it is worth, i think some of the comments made to this guy have been out of order.