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22 Feb 2017, 9:13 pm

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I'm very high functioning, infact it took me a while to even accept the possibility that I have AS. My quirks are mild, I have no more meltdowns than a regular NT (infact probably less). My IQ is probably quite high.
Even though I've struggled to even identify with most AS on here, since joining I've come to realise AS is a spectrum - its different for everyone.
For some it is a real disability, some desire to be more social, to have many friends. Some wish to be NT.
And that is okay.
Please try to understand that others feel differently, they experience AS differently.


I thought I was one of the only ones. When people talk about not understanding sarcasm, I've never connected with that. The only things I can't understand are dirty jokes and it's probably because I was sheltered.


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23 Feb 2017, 2:20 am

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Some NTs think they are superior to AS people. Some AS people think they are superior to NTs. How can both be right?


well that's the thing....i really don't think either of them are. :jester:

it all comes down to characteristics and traits. maybe there there is a shred of truth, though you'd have to ask yourself what "better" really MEANS.

more apt for survival? able to satisfy yourself or others? fitting in?

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Also, people say to treat others as you like to be treated. Yes, sometimes NTs treat aspies as inferior. But if Aspies start treating NTs just like that, how can Aspies convince NTs that Aspies can be pleasant people that should be treated equal? Not to mention that NTs outnumber AS by about 100 to 1, so NTs would likely win if upsetted.


it might be the response that comes from being mistreated one's whole life.

that doesn't make it right, of course, but i can understand where some of the "us vs them" mentality comes from. you've finally discovered what has been making you so different from the others, and it's a huge moment of realization and clarity for some.

turns out, there's also a label that applies to those others. :|


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23 Feb 2017, 7:57 am

Some NTs think they are superior to AS people. Some AS people think they are superior to NTs. How can both be right? Both cannot be right, if someone says that 1+1=2 and another person says that 1+1=5, both cannot be right.
I never said that any particular aspie is superior to any particular NT. I said that if you are an aspie it is more likely that you have those superior traits. I agree that "superior" is a difficult thing to define. However, it might be human centrism but I think I am superior to an ant. It may be aspie centrism to say that aspies are more likely to have the "superior" traits of creativity etc, but its based on empirical data.
I never advocated being mean to NTs. Some are superior to me. I am only saying that we should recognize that many NTs have cognitive difficulties and adapt to their world. And NTs do dominate the world.


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11 Mar 2017, 2:38 am

Well we aspies do have an objectivity that escapes NTs! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFacWGBJ_cs


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11 Mar 2017, 3:35 am

wittgenstein wrote:
However, it might be human centrism but I think I am superior to an ant.


can you deliver a sting to an organism thousands of times your size, potent enough to give the colossus "waves of burning, throbbing, all-consuming pain that continues unabated for up to 24 hours" ??? :idea:

can you run 800 times your body length a minute, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME carrying 20 times your body weight?

the answer to that is....maybe. i don't know you. but i think all organisms are worthy of appreciation, and there's definitely something to be said for the less sapient among us.



ants run a better monarchy than russia in the early 20th century, if you ask me.

wittgenstein wrote:
It may be aspie centrism to say that aspies are more likely to have the "superior" traits of creativity etc, but its based on empirical data.


it's hard for me to believe that something as ill defined and murky as "creativity" can be empirically quantified. :|


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11 Mar 2017, 10:09 am

It is empirically validated that on earth we are the most creative. Show me an Moose Mozart, or a elephant Einstein or a ...


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