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29 Sep 2020, 6:46 am

The posters here have an aspie superpower, humility. I hate humility! LOL

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29 Sep 2020, 6:47 am

BTW read the post right before my last one ( on the page before ) or you will not get the context.

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29 Sep 2020, 7:01 am

BTW when I say that we have super powers I am not suggesting that we wear tights and a cape. That is a way too literal interpretation. When I was diagnosed I objected and said, " how can I be autistic when I am great with metaphors? " The psychiatrist said that you don't have to have all the symptoms to be [ labeled].
My ability with metaphors is in a sense a super power. I acknowledge it. However, I also acknowledge my personal challenges.

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29 Sep 2020, 7:14 am

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You take one aspie and one neurotypical the odds are 20 times greater that the aspie will shake the world compared to the neurotypical.

You’ve still not answered the question name a list of these diagnosed aspies that have shaken the world.

1 in 250 humans have been born in around 75 years since ASD traits have been identified.

Where are they?

It appears you confuse personality type with a developmental disability which is a common error.

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https://list25.com/25-famous-people-wit ... -syndrome/
See that post. That is where I post a link that agrees with you that 1/250 people have been labeled with aspergers.

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29 Sep 2020, 7:15 am

Note that there are many famous aspergers that were not on the list.

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29 Sep 2020, 8:21 am

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If you think you are disabled you will think like a disabled person. However, you have to be realistic. I accept the fact that my aspergers has many challenges. If I accept my disabilities and not my exceptional abilities I will not have a good life. I give the analogy of a boxer to my students. Suppose your manager before a fight says, " He is pretty big! You really don't have a chance! " Or says, " you spit lightning . I pity the fool that fights you! " Which manager is doing his job? Do you think you will succeed if you constantly concentrate on your disabilities? I am shy as most aspies are. However, I am the most popular teacher where I teach and I have a beautiful fiancé.
My son is an aspie. He is unemployed and has no social life. However, because of my "counseling " his pride keeps increasing. He likes superheroes. is there anything more socially acceptable? After all they are called superheroes!
In response to your post, some object to historical diagnoses even if done by a professional. They believe that you have to face a client face to face before making a diagnosis. I and many validated academics disagree.

I understand why your saying what you do and I sincerely wish your son well.

But you are trying to convince strangers and maybe yourself here?

Your list has many undiagnosed people on it including Vladimir Putin who rose to be a KGB chief and president of Russia (who knows what he had to do and deal with for that one) and one as old as the hills Bill Gates.

Most are also historical figures who lived before our time and autistic traits can easily be misdiagnosed even today, they even claimed Donald Trump’s son is autistic when he’s not.

There’s all sorts of things that can be misdiagnosed as ASD trauma, abuse, historical context, depression and brutalization to name a few.

Most aspies who are diagnosed late suffer some type of breakdown or mental health crisis usually in the teens. The abscence of such in an adults life is a big clue that the person doesn’t have ASD, or the symptoms are so mild they barely are worth claiming.

There is a danger of unrealistic expectations by claiming we have special powers.

Both on the individual themselves and society in general. No one in society is going to help someone if they think they are able.

What happens when they can’t?

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29 Sep 2020, 8:51 am

carlos55 wrote:

... Your list has many undiagnosed people on it including Vladimir Putin who rose to be a KGB chief and president of Russia (who knows what he had to do and deal with for that one) and one as old as the hills Bill Gates. Most are also historical figures who lived before our time and autistic traits can easily be misdiagnosed even today, they even claimed Donald Trump’s son is autistic when he’s not. There’s all sorts of things that can be misdiagnosed as ASD trauma, abuse, historical context, depression and brutalization to name a few. Most aspies who are diagnosed late suffer some type of breakdown or mental health crisis usually in the teens. The absence of such in an adults life is a big clue that the person doesn’t have ASD, or the symptoms are so mild they barely are worth claiming. There is a danger of unrealistic expectations by claiming we have special powers...

What seems to be in operation is the process of reaching a conclusion first, and then gathering 'evidence' to support that conclusion. This is much like declaring a defendant 'guilty' and then gathering evidence to convict them.

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29 Sep 2020, 9:10 am

Feeling like a super hero is a great morale booster for use in the home. Outside of that shelter, excess self-esteem is offensive.

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29 Sep 2020, 9:16 am

Wittgenstein wrote:

The posters here have an aspie superpower, humility. I hate humility! LOL

The world particularly Americans need more humility, a lot more humility. Humility is not the same as “I suck, I am never going to accomplish anything”. There is too much of that on WP but not as much as a few years back

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they even claimed Donald Trump’s son is autistic when he’s not.

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If one is going to criticize armchair diagnosing of public figures it behoves one not to armchair diagnose a public figure.
In the case of the first son there is not enough evidence to even suspect one way or another, not close. Barron has only been seen in a few photo ops and late night video clips. Melania has done a great job in shielding him from public scrutiny.

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29 Sep 2020, 1:55 pm

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Actually, science proposes an idea and then seeks to prove it. Just one example, https://eclipse2017.nasa.gov/testing-ge ... ears%20ago. If is false that science has no ideas until proven.

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29 Sep 2020, 1:57 pm

Your analogy is silly. The prosecutor tries to prove the defendant guilty. The defense attorney tries to prove him innocent. The adversarial system is part of law and science.

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29 Sep 2020, 2:02 pm

Scientists do not randomly acquire data . Their research is fine tuned to answer a question ( provide evidence) for an idea.

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29 Sep 2020, 2:06 pm

carlos55 wrote:

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I wrote,"In response to your post, some object to historical diagnoses even if done by a professional. They believe that you have to face a client face to face before making a diagnosis. I and many validated academics disagree'
However, I do agree that remote diagnoses ( such as if a patient phones in his symptoms to a doctor ) are not worthless.

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29 Sep 2020, 2:11 pm

My bad. My last sentence should have been clearer. I should have said, " I believe that remote diagnoses ( such as if a patient phones in his symptoms to a doctor ) are not worthless. For example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mind_of_Adolf_Hitler was very accurate as proven by the fact that it correctly predicted what Hitler would do at the end of the war.

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29 Sep 2020, 2:14 pm

wittgenstein wrote:

The posters here have an aspie superpower, humility. I hate humility! LOL

Yes, my humility prevents me from telling you how great I really am...

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29 Sep 2020, 2:20 pm

Dear_one wrote:

Feeling like a super hero is a great morale booster for use in the home. Outside of that shelter, excess self-esteem is offensive.

It depends on what you mean by humility. I am saying, " I'm OK and you are OK" I am not saying " I am OK and you are not." I am saying that I have super powers and so do you. However, they are different. Should https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPlXC3M8hbg have said that he was just OK at chess?

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