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15 Mar 2021, 9:21 am

The other thing is my interest in football goes deeper than just whinging about results.

We're told to know our history.

Why not talk about the bloody history then. Or about the meaning of the club. Or how the women and youth clubs are getting on.


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15 Mar 2021, 9:22 am

Football history in the UK is like baseball history in the US.

Both are sacrosanct.



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15 Mar 2021, 9:23 am

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I have ADHD so I find focusing on things difficult.


I think ADHD can be a strength if you direct your energies across many things


Hate to be someone who's assuming the abilities of someone else's mind but to discuss ADHD in general, I had a boyfriend who was amazing at piano and had ADHD.

His mind worked really fast which is opposite of mine.

Real life was too slow for him but playing the piano really fast was right up his street so he got really talented doing just that.

He was allistic as well. So he didn't have the aspie focusing strength helping him. Just the ADHD wanting to be fast strength.


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15 Mar 2021, 4:40 pm

I wasn't saying people with ADHD aren't capable of any skills but the skills I have have always been quite simplistic (if that is the right word). I've never really been an overachiever or savant at anything. I'm not saying I suck at everything but I've never been exceptional.

I remember when I was 12 I had an obsession with Spanish and it became my favourite subject in school, and I was eager to learn it and speak fluently. But I had trouble memorizing the language. I even bought myself a 'learn Spanish' kit which came with a Spanish dictionary and some CDs so that I could learn at home, but I never actually sat down and used it. Then I started to lose interest due to frustration of not being able to pick it up. I don't think I'm cut out to learn a new language. But most normal autistic people can learn a language if they develop an interest in one. Same goes to NTs too, but people on WP usually say about how good they are at memorizing facts related to their interests. I can't.


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15 Mar 2021, 8:58 pm

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The phenomenon you’re observing is what I refer to as “living to die.” It sounds harsh, but the truth is that it’s the closest example that humans, read NT’s, are still just drooling animals. They like to dress it up when it suits them that they’re entitled to heaven or riches. But the facts show us that trillions of lives have come and gone without notice while those who are historically famous have lived.

There are lies that people tell to protect this sentimentality- that all life is precious. All people have a bit of good in them, you just have to find it. Heaven. God. Without these, regular people’s psychologies crumble. They realize they’re worthless and they give up being nice to other people, because there's no reward at the end. The curtain falls, the veneer drops on their true cruelty. It’s why we have so many anti-maskers right now. Facebook has shown that people are not connected to religions in the way they pretend to be out in public. I’ve heard dozens of people tell me they won’t wear masks because they believe God (always white God, btw) will protect them from the pandemic. Why them? What makes them special? Nothing. Just lies they tell themselves so they don’t fully grasp the horrors of their insignificance.

Me? I’m not special. But I spent my life learning about how to find hope without lying. I learned to live without the need to make others suffer through my negligence. And that includes what you’re talking about. Hobbies/ interests. I bring joy to others around me. I help them have as much fun as possible. I tell religious people that they will never get me to believe, but that I will never make them stop.

I did a research project at the start of Trump’s “kids in cages” campaign (still going btw). I learned about two studies that showed people with no fun in their lives become conservative over time. The first study demonstrated that conservatives given a choice between invisibility (read protection) and flight (read fun) answered a series of political questions more conservative or more liberal respectively afterwards. The idea they needed protection drove them deeper in their conservative responses (all subjects already identified as conservative). The idea they were free drove them more answer more liberally.

The second research paper was about playgrounds in Europe adding danger to reduce accidents. They found that fun being had with a little danger helped decrease schoolyard accidents when compared to over-engineered “safety” playgrounds. It is in the nature of people to explore, particularly at a young age. Curbing that, draining fun for safety, has an adverse effect on how children navigate those playgrounds. Their curiosity is not quenched, and they outwit the safety protocols. This leads to worse, more deadly and dangerous accidents. And that’s not my opinion. It’s what the researchers were observing.

So, I studied republicans versus democrats lifestyles within the US and found that on the whole, both parties were a bunch of safety blanket cuddling as*holes. The reason the two parties are so alike is because they’re both riddled with secretly ultra-conservative acting, unfun jerks vying for power, not change. You can see this in how Mitch McConnell completely copied and replaced Harry Reid. Reid taught McConnell as an understudy, did everything McConnell is doing. For example, delivered a party line vote not to impeach Clinton. Frankly, after #metoo, we all now know that Bill was a total piece of s**t. And that’s fine, apparently the dems of this day don’t remember how they helped build a Republican hatred of them by letting their morals slide on that one. Anyway.

Have fun. Be responsible. Enjoy a little bit of danger. And travel. You’re guaranteed not to be an old, crotchety, boring as*hole if you follow those guidelines.

Oh, and ps, anyone reading this who disagrees and is incensed by the accusation they are conservative because they don’t have enough fun, suck it. You have no idea how much fun you’re missing. Don’t @ me.

when I first read the title I was thinking exactly this whole idea of sanctity and holier-than-thou attitude insecure Ds have.

Im currently in emotional insomnia due to an encounter of such a creature.


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15 Mar 2021, 9:56 pm

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Im currently in emotional insomnia due to an encounter of such a creature.

I really hope you're not referring to me. :|



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16 Mar 2021, 12:34 am

KT67 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
I have ADHD so I find focusing on things difficult.


I think ADHD can be a strength if you direct your energies across many things


Hate to be someone who's assuming the abilities of someone else's mind but to discuss ADHD in general, I had a boyfriend who was amazing at piano and had ADHD.

His mind worked really fast which is opposite of mine.

Real life was too slow for him but playing the piano really fast was right up his street so he got really talented doing just that.

He was allistic as well. So he didn't have the aspie focusing strength helping him. Just the ADHD wanting to be fast strength.


Yes that's true, people with ADHD excel in physical pursuits like music, sport outdoor type jobs. Sport is infact used as behavioral therapy for kids with ADHD



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16 Mar 2021, 6:11 am

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Im currently in emotional insomnia due to an encounter of such a creature.

I really hope you're not referring to me. :|

Im talking about an NT


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16 Mar 2021, 5:58 pm

Not everyone finds the same thing boring

The world contains seven billion people

You can't measure how interesting it is

Interesting is not always a good thing



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16 Mar 2021, 6:04 pm

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
Not everyone finds the same thing boring

The world contains seven billion people

You can't measure how interesting it is

Interesting is not always a good thing


In a social context, I always see the word boring as meaning 'We are not interested in the same things'.

That way it is not so much of an insult :P

Alternatively, when or if NT's refer to me as boring, I simply continue my search for other boring people to spend time with, as that way we can all be boring at the same time and enjoy a little fun time doing lots of boring things together!

Tally Ho the Boring Brigade I say!



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16 Mar 2021, 10:53 pm

Folks on WP are anything but boring



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17 Mar 2021, 8:21 am

A lot of NT people have a fat Ego. They think they are entertaining, funny, smart... when in reality, NOT!!



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22 Mar 2021, 9:53 am

Honestly I think the "boring" perception I have of them is less that they don't have interests, but more that they will talk about anything. They enjoy socializing for its own sake - it doesn't have to have any "substance" to it. Like I would love to talk to them about their feelings and philosophies, and I would even hear out their interests that don't overlap with mine knowing that it's something that makes them happy. But I don't want to sit and talk about the banalities of life. That's not fun to me me, but I guess part of what makes us different is that just sitting and chatting is not intrinsically rewarding to us.



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22 Mar 2021, 10:06 am

Fixxer wrote:
A lot of NT people have a fat Ego. They think they are entertaining, funny, smart... when in reality, NOT!!


Different people perceive different types of people as entertaining, funny, smart... YMMV.



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22 Mar 2021, 8:38 pm

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I would love to talk to them about their feelings and philosophies, and I would even hear out their interests that don't overlap with mine knowing that it's something that makes them happy.


This one bugs me. I'm pretty open about my interests to people that will listen and my own views on "deeper" issues. And I wish I could learn other people's passions. I don't care what you had for breakfast today, you probably don't either. Tell me what gets you up in the morning, what do you love to do? Let's get deep into a topic. Why do we have to dance around in empty chit-chat? I've learned to do the small talk, but I wish people were quicker to move past it.



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23 Mar 2021, 4:02 am

Fixxer wrote:
A lot of NT people have a fat Ego. They think they are entertaining, funny, smart... when in reality, NOT!!


Hey easy there brother!