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05 Apr 2021, 10:42 am

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Now imagine a level-15 telepath (assume a fictional "me", for example) is born with enough skill and strength to not only ignore your shield, but to alter your thoughts and memories and ...
Hey Fnord, nearly any communication happens for nothing but altering other peoples mind and imagination, the verbal and the nonverbal one. E.g. there is no reason for a smile otherwise. The art of picking up other peoples mind happens mostly by reading their body-language, their facial expressions and the tone of their voices and by imaging the way that their mind may works. There are some people who are really good at getting others and most people have even 'mirror neurons' in their brains for that. But also others people are do that. That's reality and not just a fiction. Only the thinking that this is impossible and not reality or even can't be is a real fiction.
This thread is about fictional telepathy, not real-world psychology.


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05 Apr 2021, 10:57 am

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This thread is about fictional telepathy, not real-world psychology.

There is no big difference for people who suck at both ... :mrgreen:


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05 Apr 2021, 11:00 am

Fnord wrote:
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... All in all, it's wonderful to think about, but an absolute nightmare in practice.
Would there be more or less crime.
That would be dependent upon the new laws that would be imposed on the public after telepathy was discovered.
Laws?

How could laws in a telepathic society have any meaning?

Imagine a world where everyone is a level-1 telepath, with just enough skill and strength to erect a mental shield and know when someone else is "knocking" on it.

Now imagine a level-15 telepath (assume a fictional "me", for example) is born with enough skill and strength to not only ignore your shield, but to alter your thoughts and memories and compel you to do things you would never choose to do of your own volition...

Robbed?  No ... you willingly signed over all of your personal wealth (including house, car, and bank accounts) to me because you whole-heartedly believe that I deserve it all more than you.

Raped?  No ... not only did you willingly participate in the most humiliating and painful acts, but you remember enjoying every second of it, and look forward to doing it again ... if only you could remember my name and what I look like.

Murdered Someone?  You cannot quite remember why, and you have no memory of what happened, where your weapon came from, or who your victim was.  You only know with absolute certainty that it had to be done, and that you were the only one who could do it.

Elected me Emperor for my fifteenth term of office?  Hey, why not?  Those other candidates were worthless, anyway ... what were their names again?

That is only the beginning.  Imagine a world in which the number one leading cause of death is either an epileptic seizure, a stopped heart, or someone forgetting to breathe.

Imagine a world where the dead are completely forgotten, and history itself is bland and featureless.

Imagine going to work every day and having no memory of what you did while at work.

Imagine someone else taking over your body and forcing you to retrieve something from a burning building.

Is that the kind of world the OP would want?


You would be like an evil version of professor X from the X-men comics. It would make life interesting to say the least.



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05 Apr 2021, 11:04 am

QuantumChemist wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Yakuzamonroe wrote:
Technic1 wrote:
Yakuzamonroe wrote:
... All in all, it's wonderful to think about, but an absolute nightmare in practice.
Would there be more or less crime.
That would be dependent upon the new laws that would be imposed on the public after telepathy was discovered.
Laws?

How could laws in a telepathic society have any meaning?

Imagine a world where everyone is a level-1 telepath, with just enough skill and strength to erect a mental shield and know when someone else is "knocking" on it.

Now imagine a level-15 telepath (assume a fictional "me", for example) is born with enough skill and strength to not only ignore your shield, but to alter your thoughts and memories and compel you to do things you would never choose to do of your own volition...

Robbed?  No ... you willingly signed over all of your personal wealth (including house, car, and bank accounts) to me because you whole-heartedly believe that I deserve it all more than you.

Raped?  No ... not only did you willingly participate in the most humiliating and painful acts, but you remember enjoying every second of it, and look forward to doing it again ... if only you could remember my name and what I look like.

Murdered Someone?  You cannot quite remember why, and you have no memory of what happened, where your weapon came from, or who your victim was.  You only know with absolute certainty that it had to be done, and that you were the only one who could do it.

Elected me Emperor for my fifteenth term of office?  Hey, why not?  Those other candidates were worthless, anyway ... what were their names again?

That is only the beginning.  Imagine a world in which the number one leading cause of death is either an epileptic seizure, a stopped heart, or someone forgetting to breathe.

Imagine a world where the dead are completely forgotten, and history itself is bland and featureless.

Imagine going to work every day and having no memory of what you did while at work.

Imagine someone else taking over your body and forcing you to retrieve something from a burning building.

Is that the kind of world the OP would want?
You would be like an evil version of professor X from the X-men comics. It would make life interesting to say the least.
I want to be more like this guy (the one on your left)...

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05 Apr 2021, 12:12 pm

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I want to be more like this guy (the one on your left)...
Image

:D


That's not really a problem. I have good scissors just come with your ears ... :twisted:
OK - the hair cut isn't that easy.


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05 Apr 2021, 12:14 pm

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That's not really a problem. I have good scissors just come with your ears ...
Leonard Nimoy's ears were augmented, not attenuated.


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05 Apr 2021, 12:17 pm

Fnord wrote:
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That's not really a problem. I have good scissors just come with your ears ...
Leonard Nimoy's ears were augmented, not attenuated.

That's no problem. I have a hot glue gun too. :wink:


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