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11 Aug 2023, 1:24 pm

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You mean you dont remember what smell is what? Like mom told me that "that smell coming from cat box is mildew", and then months later I told a friend "your basement has mildew" because it had the same smell. Are you saying that you wouldnt be able to ID mildew months after you were taught to recognize it if you smelled it again?


Correct.

Extremely rarely, if I can smell the smell again, my brain may tell itself that there is something familiar but I can’t identify properly. I know that my brain will not retain the smell even if people tell me what it is.
I would detect but not identify a smell. I don't know if I'm explaining things properly to you.

I don’t have any idea of the smell of mildew for example.
But If I had an emotion when I smelled, I can memorize the emotion or appreciation (of I had one) I linked with the smell but not the smell identification/recognization itself.
I remember that the smell of a chicken forgotten in a trash can during a heat wave for two weeks was absolutely disgusting (and it's rare that I have such a strong opinion of a smell).
I don’t have any idea of how my partner smell but I know I feel strong things when I state this idea to myself.

I also find it difficult to know what a good smell or a bad smell is.
When people are going to wince because a sewage treatment plant stinks, I'm not going to wince, or make a comment and I'm going to smell non-stop but not because I think this smell smells good. I don't understand why I smell repetitively like that.


Is that clear for you?

But if I am the only autistic person to experience this, it is because it must not be an autistic trait but a Checkbox’s trait.

PS: By the way, now that I think about it, I have a bit of the same problem with the taste but it's really less serious.



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11 Aug 2023, 2:13 pm

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naturalplastic wrote:
You mean you dont remember what smell is what? Like mom told me that "that smell coming from cat box is mildew", and then months later I told a friend "your basement has mildew" because it had the same smell. Are you saying that you wouldnt be able to ID mildew months after you were taught to recognize it if you smelled it again?


Correct.

Extremely rarely, if I can smell the smell again, my brain may tell itself that there is something familiar but I can’t identify properly. I know that my brain will not retain the smell even if people tell me what it is.
I would detect but not identify a smell. I don't know if I'm explaining things properly to you.

I don’t have any idea of the smell of mildew for example.
But If I had an emotion when I smelled, I can memorize the emotion or appreciation (of I had one) I linked with the smell but not the smell identification/recognization itself.
I remember that the smell of a chicken forgotten in a trash can during a heat wave for two weeks was absolutely disgusting (and it's rare that I have such a strong opinion of a smell).
I don’t have any idea of how my partner smell but I know I feel strong things when I state this idea to myself.

I also find it difficult to know what a good smell or a bad smell is.
When people are going to wince because a sewage treatment plant stinks, I'm not going to wince, or make a comment and I'm going to smell non-stop but not because I think this smell smells good. I don't understand why I smell repetitively like that.


Is that clear for you?

But if I am the only autistic person to experience this, it is because it must not be an autistic trait but a Checkbox’s trait.

PS: By the way, now that I think about it, I have a bit of the same problem with the taste but it's really less serious.

That is.....curious.

So ...if I pushed a rose into your face...and then pushed a soiled baby's diaper into your face...you would (a) be aware that both have strong smells, but (b) keep your nose in both for about the same length of time because you have no preference for either smell (and also no repugnance for either)?



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11 Aug 2023, 2:37 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
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naturalplastic wrote:
You mean you dont remember what smell is what? Like mom told me that "that smell coming from cat box is mildew", and then months later I told a friend "your basement has mildew" because it had the same smell. Are you saying that you wouldnt be able to ID mildew months after you were taught to recognize it if you smelled it again?


Correct.

Extremely rarely, if I can smell the smell again, my brain may tell itself that there is something familiar but I can’t identify properly. I know that my brain will not retain the smell even if people tell me what it is.
I would detect but not identify a smell. I don't know if I'm explaining things properly to you.

I don’t have any idea of the smell of mildew for example.
But If I had an emotion when I smelled, I can memorize the emotion or appreciation (of I had one) I linked with the smell but not the smell identification/recognization itself.
I remember that the smell of a chicken forgotten in a trash can during a heat wave for two weeks was absolutely disgusting (and it's rare that I have such a strong opinion of a smell).
I don’t have any idea of how my partner smell but I know I feel strong things when I state this idea to myself.

I also find it difficult to know what a good smell or a bad smell is.
When people are going to wince because a sewage treatment plant stinks, I'm not going to wince, or make a comment and I'm going to smell non-stop but not because I think this smell smells good. I don't understand why I smell repetitively like that.


Is that clear for you?

But if I am the only autistic person to experience this, it is because it must not be an autistic trait but a Checkbox’s trait.

PS: By the way, now that I think about it, I have a bit of the same problem with the taste but it's really less serious.

That is.....curious.

So ...if I pushed a rose into your face...and then pushed a soiled baby's diaper into your face...you would (a) be aware that both have strong smells, but (b) keep your nose in both for about the same length of time because you have no preference for either smell (and also no repugnance for either)?


This smell sub-thread is getting interesting. I watch a lot of true crime, and I've heard homicide detectives say time and again, "You never forget it," when they describe the odor of human decomposition. I'd find it hard to believe that ANYone would be indifferent to this odor. I've never smelled it myself, though, but years ago a neighbor said he began smelling it in his townhome, and it turned out that the guy he shared walls with had been dead for three weeks. He told me, "I'll never forget that smell."



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11 Aug 2023, 2:46 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
That is.....curious.

So ...if I pushed a rose into your face...and then pushed a soiled baby's diaper into your face...you would (a) be aware that both have strong smells, but (b) keep your nose in both for about the same length of time because you have no preference for either smell (and also no repugnance for either)?



I am only talking about the smell here.

I think I would be loathed to wear a baby diaper in front of my face because no one likes to have their nose in a stool (well, not me anyway). I can conceptualize disgust with the social concept of stool (which frankly was not the case when I was a child since I played with dog poop).
But, despite my repugnance, it would be possible that I would continue to smell even if I know that it is necessarily a bad smell since it is stool.

I can’t swear I would scent these 2 smells (rose and diapper) during the same amount of time. Never tried.
For the experience to be intellectually honest, I would have to be unaware (which is often the case because I find it difficult to interpret the smell) that the first smell is that of a rose and the second, of a baby diaper. If I know what it is, there will be biases.

But my entourage can confirm that I don't have problems continuing to sniff disgusting smells.
When I do my trash to empty the trash can containing cheese peelings and my cat's poop, I hear it smells like diapers. I smell repetitively indeed because it is a strong smell.
For the smell of the decomposed chicken above, there, on the other hand, I made the mistake of smelling as I have always done and I came close to vomiting.



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11 Aug 2023, 2:49 pm

I got 138 of 200 (98% atypical), which correlates pretty closely to all the other tests I've taken. The first time I ever took this quiz was a little over a year ago when I started to suspect I was autistic, and that was an older version of the quiz I suppose. I got 172 of 200 on that version.

I have a large spike with Autistic perception (almost to the edge of the graph). I have large spike in NT perception and NT relationship too. I think it's because I mask quite a lot, and one of my special interests is human behavior and psychology, which combined would explain the spikes in both NT relationship and perception (I think).


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11 Aug 2023, 3:04 pm

Elgee wrote:
This smell sub-thread is getting interesting. I watch a lot of true crime, and I've heard homicide detectives say time and again, "You never forget it," when they describe the odor of human decomposition. I'd find it hard to believe that ANYone would be indifferent to this odor. I've never smelled it myself, though, but years ago a neighbor said he began smelling it in his townhome, and it turned out that the guy he shared walls with had been dead for three weeks. He told me, "I'll never forget that smell."


I have also already been told that we never forget the smell of human decomposition.
I think there must be an instinctive side (bad bacterias) + an emotional charge (brought by the concept of death) that could make this smell unforgettable.
Fortunately, I was, for now, lucky enough to have never smelled this odor.
I know it's not the same, but I don't remember the smell of decomposing chicken anymore.
BUT I'm able to say that it has a really disgusting smell. My brain quickly judged to the point that I came close to vomiting. My error was also to smell this odor as I have always been used to smelling other odors.



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15 Aug 2023, 6:28 am

Elgee wrote:
I also want to add that the Aspie test is actually accurate for those with a bunch of stereotypical autism traits, or "neuro-spicy."

But for non-spicy Autistics such as myself, not so accurate.

The Aspie quiz will calculate a high probability for autism if you have all those iconic traits such as funny walk, odd voice, you stunk at sports in childhood and still can't run in a straight line, feel ill among bright lights and melt down in crowds. Now tack all these ticked 2's onto all the 1's for the less iconic indicators for autism, and you end up with an 80% chance of being autistic.

Since my diagnosis I've been around lots and lots of HFA's and ONLY A HANDFUL have an odd voice or peculiar gait. The vast majority can walk straight, swing their arms, effortlessly pluck coins out of a wallet, drive and sound quite typical when talking.

In summary, the Aspie quiz will nab spicy autistics but filter out bland autistics.

My score would've crossed the line into suspicion for autism had some of those oddball questions been replaced with, for instance, "You'll spend hours overthinking and re-enacting negative social interactions," or "People are amazed at your attention to detail," or:

1 You've played the same pop tune 12 times in a row
2 You've never understood pop culture, things "being in style" or why people jump onto the latest trend
3 You've never understood why people can't just get down to business in meetings instead of spending the first 15 minutes small talking
4 You don't worry what people think if you're wearing something that's "out of style."
5 You've had a very unusual, what would be considered abnormal or obsessive, attachment to at least one type of inanimate object.
6 You're very bothered by odors that other people don't seem to notice


Results:

Do you spend hours overthinking and re-enacting negative social interaction?

Included. Relates most to practicing what you want to say. It's part of typical social.

Do you tend to play the same tune many times in a row?

Included. This is a stim (atypical communication). Although, these types of stims also relates to atypical relationships.

Do you fail to understand pop culture, things like 'being in style' or why people jump onto the latest trend?

Included. This relates to problems with typical communication. I think most people interpret this as something they fail to catch onto, rather than something they dislike.

Do you like to have small talk before getting on to the important topics in a conversation?

Included. This relates to dating (typical relationships) and typical social behaviors. I think most people interpret it as dating related because they might feel this is when it is most relevant. It has poor relevance and only a minor difference between typical and atypical people.

Do you enjoy to wear things out of style?

Included. This is similar as pop culture and relates to typical communication. Most people interpret it as something they miss out on rather than a choice.

Do you have obsessive attachments to animate objects?

Included. This is a stim, but also has a connection to atypical relationships.

Do you notice odors that other people don't seem to notice?

Included. This is a perception trait. Relates to other perception traits.



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15 Aug 2023, 10:39 pm

I'm glad you included those. I wonder how many regular readers here would say "yes" to every single one of those (except the small talk one; that should be a definite "no").

Every single business meeting I've ever been in started out with small talk. If it was on the job, it didn't bother me because, the longer the small talk, the longer the delay in getting to business talk and hence a longer delay in getting back to work ... so I welcomed the delay.

But when I was trying to build a network marketing business, the meetings weren't taking me away from any work. So when they began with small talk, I hated this, because it delayed the end of the meeting and thus, delayed when I'd get back home. I always wanted to just JUMP SMACK into business talk; let's get down to business, never mind all this "how was your weekend" or "my kid did this or that" crap.



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15 Aug 2023, 11:05 pm

Quote:

1) Do you spend hours overthinking and re-enacting negative social interaction?
2) Do you tend to play the same tune many times in a row?
3) Do you fail to understand pop culture, things like 'being in style' or why people jump onto the latest trend?
4) Do you like to have small talk before getting on to the important topics in a conversation?
5) Do you enjoy to wear things out of style?
6) Do you have obsessive attachments to animate objects?
7) Do you notice odors that other people don't seem to notice?


1) No.
2) Yes.
3) Yes.
4) No.
5) Dont know.
6) Yes.
7) No.



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16 Aug 2023, 1:48 am

Checkbox wrote:
Quote:

1) Do you spend hours overthinking and re-enacting negative social interaction?
2) Do you tend to play the same tune many times in a row?
3) Do you fail to understand pop culture, things like 'being in style' or why people jump onto the latest trend?
4) Do you like to have small talk before getting on to the important topics in a conversation?
5) Do you enjoy to wear things out of style?
6) Do you have obsessive attachments to animate objects?
7) Do you notice odors that other people don't seem to notice?


1) No.
2) Yes.
3) Yes.
4) No.
5) Dont know.
6) Yes.
7) No.


1) No. I used to learn stock phrases I needed in small-talk, but I no longer do that either.
2) Yes
3) No. I understand it, but I dislike it
4) No
5) No. I wear what is comfortable regardless if it is in style or out of style.
6) No
7) No



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16 Aug 2023, 1:51 am

Elgee wrote:
But when I was trying to build a network marketing business, the meetings weren't taking me away from any work. So when they began with small talk, I hated this, because it delayed the end of the meeting and thus, delayed when I'd get back home. I always wanted to just JUMP SMACK into business talk; let's get down to business, never mind all this "how was your weekend" or "my kid did this or that" crap.


I often break this rule and go straight to the point. For me it works because I don't need to show-off as socially competent.



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16 Aug 2023, 2:05 am

I think I should test these variants:

Do you dislike pop culture?
Do you like 'being in style'?
Do you jump onto the latest trends?
Do you wear things that are comfortable regardless if they are in style or not?



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16 Aug 2023, 3:25 am

Some neurotypics could relate to these traits about trends and pop culture.
I know typical autistic people in my country who have become interested in fashion to "fit in" and a man whose stylist is his profession ( he was diagnosed at the age of 8 ) in a fashion house.
He had a good career because he left the classical school system early enough to join specialized institutions and he didn't think he would make it.



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16 Aug 2023, 3:50 am

rdos wrote:
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rdos wrote:
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56 out of 200

99 percent that I am neurotypical. And a few years ago I was officially diagnosed (by an expert with the whole battery of tests) as having aspergers! :lol:

Sorry.

Guess that you will hafta go back to the drawing board with the test.


Not likely. Either you haven't answered truthfully, or you're not autistic and instead are misdiagnosed.

One diagnosed person out of 14 that scores as highly neurotypical is not an anomaly. Another person also scores as more neurotypical than atypical, but this is not a problem either. That's 14% not getting their diagnosis confirmed, which is normal.


Let's be reasonable... You couldn't possibly believe that an online test is more accurate than the official diagnosis of a trained professional after a thorough evaluation.


I'm not diagnosing ASD, I'm checking autistic traits. It's possible to have autistic traits without being diagnosed with ASD, and it's also possible to be diagnosed with ASD without having autistic traits, for instance, by faking. Another possibility is not being honest when answering.


So you have to cover up your failure by calling me a liar. Thanks a lot!

One more thing. Your math is off. "One diagnosed person in 14" is not the same thing as "fourteen percent of diagnosed persons". "One out out of fourteen" would actually be around seven percent. And it's "one out of seven" that is about 14 percent. :lol:

you're obviously confused.

But which way is it that you're confused?

Is it one out of 14 that get results that contradict their diagnosis? Or is it one out of seven? :lol:



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16 Aug 2023, 3:54 am

I admit that I didn't understand the math but I thought it came from my bad English and that there was a subtlety that I didn't understand.



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16 Aug 2023, 3:59 am

You'll learn really fast here. ^

We used to have a member who said she didn't know English and she wrote a lot of weird stuff that never made sense. There was no syntax or semantics so she liked to post cartoon drawings of teenagers making out instead. Now just a couple of months after leaving the site she can write fluently and intellectually. It's the weirdest thing, but I guess it could happen to you too.


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