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15 Oct 2007, 4:05 am

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Are you offended cause I ragged on old guys? I didn't mean you personally, i'm sure your a credit to your gender :roll:


Good one +++, SCARY GIRLZ with a sense of humor.

Kitsy, Old and not rich, sorry.

I should correct one thing, SCARY ASPIE GIRLZ I do not think I ever met an Aspie Girl.

This is just what men fear, based on 45 years of field work. It is what the guys talk about.

Some women move from town to town, with her lawyer boyfriend, falling in love, getting married, cleaning out the bank account, maxing out the credit cards, and when asked, files for divorce, and vanishes. Some do this several times a year. Some like insurance and dead husbands, it pays better.

It is so classic that Fester on the Adams Family had one.



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15 Oct 2007, 4:06 am

lol, I'm still a bit confused as to what this thread is exactly about. I'm a female, and I'm generally uncomfortable around other females. But for some reason, I think I would feel less intimidated by aspie females, seeing as the manipulative motives are just generally not there... well, then again, I can really relate this to myself, lol, because I don't actually know any that I have been made aware of (in person). I've always been more comfortable around males, but I don't think that has anything really to do with gender. There are plenty of guys that make me just as unnerved as females-it seems to be more of a personality quirk in some that I have come across that intimidates me.

I think mostly I'm just confused about how it could be generalized in such a manner, rather than just saying that some of them make people nervous/scared, as I see this in any group of people I come across really. There are just some people I would prefer to stay away from no matter where I go, lol.

Personally, I just know I've never bothered with being manipulative that I know of. It takes too much time, planning, effort, from what it appears based on observation of others who do, and my mind is just moving too quickly to even bother with things of that matter. I'd rather find a solution right away, not make the problem bigger, lol.

I sure hope I don't come across as scary, lol.


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15 Oct 2007, 8:59 am

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That sounds just like what a person with a vagina would say.

I have no qualms with crossing anyone, but it seems like I am not very good at pissing people off. I can call a girl a b***h and she'll just giggle.



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Having observed for sixty years, it seems gender is somehow related to biology.

People deny that their gender has anything to do with their behavior?

Now it seems that girls were taught how to use sex to get their way, so it is someone elses fault, just like teaching an arsonist to use matches? I have chosen a lifetime of ignorance because I do not accept the blame for their behavior?

Billions of years of nature have been overruled in the last fifty? Changing realities? Reality is that which changes over millions of years.

There is no differance in gender, everyone is equal? Equal to what, are we the same now? I missed it.


first, we need to separate the concepts of sex and gender. sex refers to the biological differences between males and females while gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviors and values that a particular society seeks to ascribe to males and females. i'm not denying that there are vast differences in the gender roles that western society constructs for men and women, but i am cautioning against attributing those differences solely to biological differences - we need to acknowledge the role that culture plays in constucting these differences. this is evident in the wide variation in the traits attributed to men and women when you look at a different cultures around the world, in fact, you might be surprised what other cultures, who are working with the same biological differences, consider to be masculine and feminine traits.



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15 Oct 2007, 9:45 am

People fear what they don't understand. So I imagine allot of Aspie guys don't understand woman. Just like most NT's don't understand Aspies and fear and hate us.


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15 Oct 2007, 1:19 pm

I'm an East Anglian werewolf and I am terrifying.



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15 Oct 2007, 1:55 pm

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thyme wrote:
Are you offended cause I ragged on old guys? I didn't mean you personally, i'm sure your a credit to your gender :roll:


Good one +++, SCARY GIRLZ with a sense of humor.

Kitsy, Old and not rich, sorry.

I should correct one thing, SCARY ASPIE GIRLZ I do not think I ever met an Aspie Girl.

This is just what men fear, based on 45 years of field work. It is what the guys talk about.

Some women move from town to town, with her lawyer boyfriend, falling in love, getting married, cleaning out the bank account, maxing out the credit cards, and when asked, files for divorce, and vanishes. Some do this several times a year. Some like insurance and dead husbands, it pays better.

It is so classic that Fester on the Adams Family had one.


Well just stay single. Problem solved.

It's perfectly okay for rape to occur, it's actually perfectly okay for men to be engaged in mean behaviors because we all love G.I Joe. I mean us women are just all decpetive little snakes made from the rib of Adam and subpar creatures not worth talking to really.

Anyone with that male superiority complex and often recites the bible as their source, I like to relate software and their theories of superiority for being the first supposedly created

Well, you were just the beta testing. Maybe that is why women are more complex? :wink:

The funny thing is, I don't believe that people inferior or superior have the right to strip away other's human rights or take on this piss poor attitude that they have all of a "group" figured out through limited examples of listening to chatter or meeting one or a few people that they've instantly stuck into their mental filing cabinets as the same.

Maybe I should take on the attitude that all men are out to pillage and rape. I bet if I were to say that to you seriously instead of sarcastically or jokingly you would get annoyed or feel like correcting me....or would you?



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15 Oct 2007, 2:05 pm

Personally, from a woman, I usually dislike other women immensely because a lot of them can be very catty and vicious and very hard to read. Men are easier to read (for a person who has problems reading people) so I tend to be friends with them. I will say this, if someone offends me I will jump up and defend myself. However, it is usually fear mistaken as anger. I fear being misunderstood because I am so much of the time. I fear people in general. I come across angry when in reality I am scared to death.
I am tougher because I have had to be. I get bullied constantly, and have since childhood. My own family still bullies me, my classmates in college bully me...I just get tired of being a door mat.
I am also nurturing (as much as I can be) to my children and husband. But I will crack the whip if they act up! :wink:


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15 Oct 2007, 2:08 pm

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Personally, from a woman, I usually dislike other women immensely because a lot of them can be very catty and vicious and very hard to read. Men are easier to read (for a person who has problems reading people) so I tend to be friends with them. I will say this, if someone offends me I will jump up and defend myself. However, it is usually fear mistaken as anger. I fear being misunderstood because I am so much of the time. I fear people in general. I come across angry when in reality I am scared to death.
I am tougher because I have had to be. I get bullied constantly, and have since childhood. My own family still bullies me, my classmates in college bully me...I just get tired of being a door mat.
I am also nurturing (as much as I can be) to my children and husband. But I will crack the whip if they act up! :wink:


damned evil women and their refusal to be submissive all the time. Why can't women just sit down and be quiet!

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15 Oct 2007, 2:47 pm

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SCARY ASPIE GIRLZ

There were other comments, not about scary girls, but from them, Ageism, profanity, demands for silence, taking my statments as a declaration of war on the gender. Attacking the poster in a personal way.

"It's your practice of attributing all sorts of shifty motives to everyone with two x chromosomes and not responding to any argument on their behalf that get to me."


This is an attack on your chosen mode of argument, not on you.

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It is not my practice to lump everyone together, nor am I scared of girls. Many are a credit to their gender.

I am not upset by their behavior, I see it as Nature in action.

I do not think I said anything demening to the gender as a group, or directed at any person, I just posted on SCARY BEHAVIOR, and got a load of it in reply.



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EvilKimEvil, how did this get to, why you'r afraid of all girls, and do you really think that all girls are scary.

I never said all, if asked I would have said one out of a hundred, but now, and here, one out of ten.

And the Sugar and Spice, and Everything Nice award goes to......CockneyRebel!


All of your statements were in a generalized grammatical form. If I you wish to make statements about some girls, you may find the phrase "some girls" to be of use.

When I say, for example, "trees are nice," one can reasonably take this as an indication that I find (or at least have found) most or all trees in my experience to be "nice," whatever that means to me. One can not reasonably draw, from statements of this form, the idea that there are a substantial percentage of trees that I find to be quite the opposite of nice. Having made a generalized statement about trees, it doesn't make a great deal of sense to ask me about whether I disagree with it in a substantial majority of cases.


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What is with the response from The Scary Girl Union?

Why do they identify?


Why did you bother to call out what you saw as ageism and "demands" ( :lol: ) for silence?

Why does anyone bother to publicly respond to ideas or arguments they find destructive and untrue?


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15 Oct 2007, 2:55 pm

Is anyone else paranoid that they may be an outcast among outcasts? I always feel like that.


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15 Oct 2007, 3:06 pm

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I'm an East Anglian werewolf and I am terrifying.
OH NO! This is getting TOO close to home! LOOK! - My blood is thin and tasteless, my flesh is stringy and tough from years living on the fens. My bones too weak to give a satisfying CRUNCH. I dont have any silver bullets, but i do have a silver saltspoon. Over to you...


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15 Oct 2007, 3:14 pm

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Is anyone else paranoid that they may be an outcast among outcasts? I always feel like that.
Guess that make you leader of the pack...


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15 Oct 2007, 3:28 pm

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EvilKimEvil, how did this get to, why you'r afraid of all girls, and do you really think that all girls are scary.

I never said all, if asked I would have said one out of a hundred, but now, and here, one out of ten.


Sorry, I misunderstood you. I think it was the comparison to the preying mantis that threw me off. In print, tone can be hard to discern and words can come across more forcefully than intended.

This explanation makes sense and now I better understand what you meant in your previous posts. Like I said, I have no interest in attacking anyone or arguing. I found your posts thought-provoking yet occasionally nebulous so I was curious about where you were coming from. I mean that as a compliment.



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15 Oct 2007, 3:30 pm

After going thru every post i conclude: AS GIRLS (generally but not always) Say what they mean without dressing it up in feminine NT 'pettycoats' of over politeness; They are doubly vunerable from guys and NT girls & have to toughen up to survive; They tend not to play head games - And so, are hot babes (From my point of view)...I'm going back to hide in my cave now, there's a bad moon rising and a howling on the wind...


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15 Oct 2007, 4:02 pm

Aspie girls aren't for everyone.

Check your manuals for possible side effects.

You might find the aspie girl engrossed with hobbies not affiliated with going out to malls for hours deeming her unlady like.

You might find your aspie girl doesn't spray on alot of perfume

If your aspie girl wears eyeliner she will either have it down to a science or still apply it and find it smearing on her face after 30 mins.

Aspie girls can have a shy appearance, underneath it all it's really a ward off all jocks spell.

You may find your aspie girl having little or nothing to say about the word hello or she might feel awkward about goodbyes. She will however engage in interesting topics assuming what you find interesting does not revolve around shopping and sports. If you find an aspie girl, ask her about her interests.

Aspie girls don't like bullshitters. This doesn't mean walk straight up to the aspie girl and plant your lips on hers. She might punch you. This means if you are strongly attracted to her and you have intentions on possibly having a relationship. DO NOT tell her you just want to be friends. If it's one of those things where you do want to be friends and later develop feelings, that is beyond your control. If you don't get what you want, pouting and getting upset will make her feel more akward and distance herself. She most likely will show little care but it will hit her later on in unpredictable ways.


This is just very little list of how some aspies are different than NT girls.



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15 Oct 2007, 4:17 pm

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GoatOnFire wrote:
That sounds just like what a person with a vagina would say.

I have no qualms with crossing anyone, but it seems like I am not very good at pissing people off. I can call a girl a b***h and she'll just giggle.



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Having observed for sixty years, it seems gender is somehow related to biology.

People deny that their gender has anything to do with their behavior?

Now it seems that girls were taught how to use sex to get their way, so it is someone elses fault, just like teaching an arsonist to use matches? I have chosen a lifetime of ignorance because I do not accept the blame for their behavior?

Billions of years of nature have been overruled in the last fifty? Changing realities? Reality is that which changes over millions of years.

There is no differance in gender, everyone is equal? Equal to what, are we the same now? I missed it.


first, we need to separate the concepts of sex and gender. sex refers to the biological differences between males and females while gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviors and values that a particular society seeks to ascribe to males and females. i'm not denying that there are vast differences in the gender roles that western society constructs for men and women, but i am cautioning against attributing those differences solely to biological differences - we need to acknowledge the role that culture plays in constucting these differences. this is evident in the wide variation in the traits attributed to men and women when you look at a different cultures around the world, in fact, you might be surprised what other cultures, who are working with the same biological differences, consider to be masculine and feminine traits.


You removed my :wink: emoticon. Did you actually take me seriously? :) That part about me being unable to piss anyone off no matter what I do is true though.


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