Should people with Aspergers be able to own guns?
If enforced safety is the issue, ban cars. They kill more people than guns.
My Algerian friend freaked out on being able to buy a gun at Walmart.
His comment was, if there were a quarter as many guns in my country, the shooting would never stop.
Europeans should not have guns, too much history of religious war, two big wars in the last hundred years.
Europe has to be run like a prison. They still kill each other, with knives and clubs.
Australians? I do not know. Drinking and fighting are something of a national pastime. Kangaroo attacks are rare, I think treat them like Europeans, it's their tradition. Like Canada, they have the Queen on their money.
America is based on not having a European type government. We put our faith in The People, and in conflict with the government they know we are better armed. It goes from County Sheriff up, do right, or face the wrath of the people. We have national gun laws, they work. No local is allowed to disarm the people and become King of the County, like Europe.
It is a balence between two evils, despotic government with all the guns, and a few guns falling into the hands of the wrong people. We punish them severly, not so much for the gun, but for breaking the trust put on them. Freedom can only be kept by a well armed people. Look at the Swiss, they bring Army rifles home, no mass murder, long term freedom. Look at street scenes in Israel. shopping for groceries with the automatic slung over the shoulder. No high crime and mass murder between them.
Our government does not have an army, they too are of the People. We do trust them.
I keep calling for a change. I would like the Commandant of the Marines to be elected Dictator for ten years. He can assign State Governors, It is in the Constituion which he will defend, uphold, and preserve for the people. We have the right to chose another form of government at any time.
Corruption has become deeply intrenched in 200 years, The Greeks and Romans had the same problem, a Dictator fixed it, and The People got another hundred years of self government. We would not have that choice if the government had all the guns.
We did not model our country on the King of England, the rights of man is not an outdated concept. It is a burden placed on The People, each generation, to stand, and die if need be, so that Freedom will not perish. We had the choice of any form of government, this one was chosen, not because it is perfect, but because it supports the rights of most people. It is in it's self a government that is a check against the worst of government.
It does get out of whack, and we do fix it.
My country right or wrong, if right to be kept right, if wrong to be corrected.
Europe has to be run like a prison. They still kill each other, with knives and clubs.
I don't know what part of Europe you're talking about but going around clubbing each other? 2000 years ago maybe! And aren't ALL wars started/based on religion?
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Europe has to be run like a prison. They still kill each other, with knives and clubs.
I don't know what part of Europe you're talking about but going around clubbing each other? 2000 years ago maybe! And aren't ALL wars started/based on religion?
Agreed,
Europe is not that hardcore,many Europeans certainly do go around "clubbing",but it's something completely different altogether.
If Europe is run like a prison,where do they send all the bad people? New Orleans?
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when i move to idaho im gonna buy a single shot shotgun and im going to get one of those cool ass belts that hold bullets that goes around your chest
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Well, I use it for self-defense as well as for sport shooting. Where I live, there's something called the "Make My Day" law, where it's considered legally justifiable to shoot an intruder into your home once they cross the threshold into the house. Since my husband's military duty often takes him away from home, it makes me feel safer. My husband and I also enjoy shooting recreationally.
My good reason for owning a gun is the Second Amendment. I have the right to legally own a firearm.
ETA: I do not, and most likely will not hunt. I don't believe in killing animals for sport.
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Europe has to be run like a prison. They still kill each other, with knives and clubs.
I don't know what part of Europe you're talking about but going around clubbing each other? 2000 years ago maybe! And aren't ALL wars started/based on religion?
Agreed,
Europe is not that hardcore,many Europeans certainly do go around "clubbing",but it's something completely different altogether.
If Europe is run like a prison,where do they send all the bad people? New Orleans?
Yes, New Orleans was an early dumping ground. Back in the days of the Spanish, Mooranos, the Jewish and Islamic people of Andalusia, who had coverted, in public, but continued being different in private, were rounded up and sent to the colonies, or burned at the stake, for the God of Love.
Later when they wanted the Canary Isles, they first tried to kill all the people who happened to be there, and did not want to become subjects of Spain. They were a people of the Amazight, who spoke Guanche, one of the thirty-six dialects of the oldest known language.
They had a written language so old that none could still read it, carved on wood, which the Spanish burned. The first book in Spanish is El Cid, about 1500. They were rounded up and sent to the colonies. Fearing them, as they were smart, the Spanish scattered them. In Argentina, on the Pampas, they are Gauchos. They do have a way with horses and cattle. The broad brimmed high cone Mexican hat is Guanche.
A large group was sent to Louisiana, under military guard. We call them Islanos, they have remained apart since the early 1500s. People drove herds of horses and cattle from Texas, for the Islanos to tame, for they speak to animals, and are understood.
Plato called them the Atlanties, who lived in the Fortunate Isles, The Hesperides, Hesper being West. They were the source of everything he knew, the first to grow grain, use irrigation, domesticate animals, and the origen of the Greek gods, Artimes is the goddess of fire, temis means fire in Tamazight. Plato said their land sank, and he dates it to when the ice melted and sea level rose 440 foot. He called their island nation Atlantis.
When the British came, some unruly French that had been dumped by France in Nova Scotia, were giving them trouble, they would not stop being French, so they were taken from Arcadia, and dumped in Louisiana. Our Arcadians have been shortened to Ca' jon, Cajun. Still French speaking, hundreds of years out of date, and love to party.
Spanish Louisiana, part of Spanish Florida, our Florida Parishes, welcomed half breeds, Many came. The Spanish figured that as no one would accept them, they would be loyal to anyone that did.
The French Revolution, and Napolean, sent much of the French Court into exile, they settled in Louisiana. They still speak Court French, and plan to return to power in France someday.
Many free people of color setted here, for we do not look at your skin, but into your heart.
New Orleans is the third largest Honduran city. People running for President, 160 in 163 years, need the votes here. We are a colony of Honduras.
The Louisiana Purchase came as a shock to us, The Anti-Christ has sold our lands, lives, children, to Massa Tom Jefferson, who everyone knew kept his wife's half sister as a sex slave.
We never thought of joining America, we were always an International Free City. We fought the British in 1812, and won.
During the Civil War we remained neutral. Invaded by Americans, who were then driven out by Americans.
Everyone welcome, free trade, just laws, a World City. The Americans have never liked us.
America was another story. Ogalthorp cleared out English prisons and did a pre-Australia. Ben Franklin wrote letters to the King, thanking him for being so generous, but telling him that we had enough thieves, pickpockets, cutthroats, prostitutes, sodimites, and insane people, and surely the King was running short of them, and would send craftsmen, farmers, and a few honest folk. It never happened.
We got the Religious Nuts, the criminal, the insane, and have built a nation on it. What had been several hundred years of peace between the Europeans, and the Native Americans, quickly turned to genocide.
We are thankful to the British Mercantile interests, they wanted to control cotton, mostly produced on the old French and Spanish land grants along the Mississippi, and sold to France, so they arrange the Civil War, which killed off a lot of the worst. Gulf Port, to New Orleans, to Vicksbrg was the richest area of the Americas, most cultured, and mostly dealt with Europe.
Soon the sweat shops of New England were the richest, immigrant labor from the lowest classes, worked seven days a week, morning to night, from the age of six. They were starved, cold, and worked to death, for replacements could be found in England. They were cheaper to transport than to breed. Slaves were treated better, they were worth something.
General Cornwallis went on and worked for a private company, looting and pillaging India, so they could produce Opium to sell at gunpoint in China, for they did not want to pay in gold for Chinese goods.
When America refused their culling, Australia was opened.
The goal of Europe, seems to be having two classes, one who owns everything, and good servants. The Lord gave up the Manor House when it was taxed, let the people support it's up keep, but kept the lands, and formed a corporation to avoid death taxes. When there are more people than they can use, like now, a war kills fifty million, and creates market demand for mercantile production, and guess who owns the factories for war, and for rebuilding.
We do not listen to words, but look at deeds. European overlords were going to make the planet their colony. We see history, it has not been going well, China, India, Southeast Asia, the Phillipines, Africa, British Mandates, French Mandates, the age of pirate looting is failing.
Now we live in the aftermath, whole peoples killed, cultures destroyed, forests cut, herds slaughtered, drought, dust storms, economic depression, dirty air and water, the oceans near dead, ugly, overcrowed, no education or health care, and a world where the flag and god are one, the dollar.
Human culture has other deeper and richer meanings.
In this world, being a rejected outcast is a good thing.
Someday, after much suffering, you will see that the values of all people, and all time, have a reality.
The rich have taken power before, it ended, those with guns have ruled, for a while.
Evil ends, and starts anew, good survives the worst of times, and grows in the best.
Stealing from the neighbors will not last, a culture that produces criminals, can be in denial, transport them, but like a person, if the roots are not dealt with, the problem returns.
To me, and many others, Europe had many advantages, much wisdom, but was still an abusive parent that left damaged children behind. You have taken me for everything I had, and left me on my own.
Where are the old forests that supported a web of life, flocks of birds that blotted out the sun for days in their passing, where are the 90,000,000 buffalo who kept the Great Plains covered in rich grass, why does the air smell bad, and hang like brown fog, why can I not drink from the streams, or see the stars at night, why have you torn down the temple the Great Spirit built?
What can I think? You hate life.
Our motto is, "Laissez Le Bon Temps Rouler."
It is often put into English as, "Let the good times roll", but in French thought it is closer to Let the good times rule. Let good be the dominate thing in our time.
Well, I use it for self-defense as well as for sport shooting. Where I live, there's something called the "Make My Day" law, where it's considered legally justifiable to shoot an intruder into your home once they cross the threshold into the house. Since my husband's military duty often takes him away from home, it makes me feel safer. My husband and I also enjoy shooting recreationally.
My good reason for owning a gun is the Second Amendment. I have the right to legally own a firearm.
ETA: I do not, and most likely will not hunt. I don't believe in killing animals for sport.
The guns you use to recreational shooting are (in many cases) different than the ones used for killing. Usually, burglars won't break into houses when there's people in them. And even if they do, it's still doesn't justify killing them. In the town where I live, there has been one homicide for the past 20 years, and it wasn't in self-defence...
Well, I use it for self-defense as well as for sport shooting. Where I live, there's something called the "Make My Day" law, where it's considered legally justifiable to shoot an intruder into your home once they cross the threshold into the house. Since my husband's military duty often takes him away from home, it makes me feel safer. My husband and I also enjoy shooting recreationally.
My good reason for owning a gun is the Second Amendment. I have the right to legally own a firearm.
ETA: I do not, and most likely will not hunt. I don't believe in killing animals for sport.
The guns you use to recreational shooting are (in many cases) different than the ones used for killing. Usually, burglars won't break into houses when there's people in them. And even if they do, it's still doesn't justify killing them. In the town where i live, there has been one homicide for the past 20 years, and it wasn't in self-defence...
I own a .32 Ruger SP-101, which is ideal for self defense and is fun to shoot. You are of course entitled to your opinion on the matter, however, I am still a proud gun owner.
ETA: I did have someone once try to break into my house while I was still home, just for the record.
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My parents don't becuase they think I'd shoot whatever person offended me. Once a lady chased and grabed me because I was trying to save a snake her kids were threatning to kill. My mom says I probably would have shot her. If she saw me with a gun and if she had any kind of sence she wouldn't have gotten within foot of me.
True, but I simply am against guns for private individuals. Gun should be in the hands of trained people like cops and other people responsable for safety in society. I am against private people being able to possess guns. Aspie or NT, I don't care, unless he is a policeman or a security worker he should not possess guns.
The American rules where people can just buy guns even if they don't work in the police or security industry, is something me and many Europeans don't understand. In Europe it is unthinkable that private persons can buy guns, and thank god for that. I would feel very unsafe if Europe would introduce the same weapon laws as the USA, I would not feel comfortable at all with the idea that every single person can own a gun.
I hope the Americans realise someday as well that guns cause more harm than they prevent harm. Ban the laws allowing gun possession, and leave guns to those who are trained and paid for keeping the streets safe: policemen and army staff.
Police are not legally obligated to protect citizens and a good chunk of them are less trained than a lot of private citizens.
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