Psychologist says he doesn't think I have Asperger's

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12 Jan 2008, 9:25 pm

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Well, maybe you genuinely don't have it.


Agreed.

Ever since I started coming to this board, I've seen bunches of threads about how psychologists have refused to give someone an Asperger's diagnosis. Then, everyone comes out and says the psychologist is unprofessional and that the poster should seek someone better. I'm not trying to sound mean, but has anyone ever thought that it's not the psychologist who is wrong? I don't know. Maybe I'm naive for trusting psychologists, but I just get the feeling they might be right every now and again.

Just because you don't get the diagnosis you want doesn't mean the psychologist is wrong or unprofessional. I guarantee that if you go to enough psychologists you'll eventually get the diagnosis you want, whether you really have it or not. In the end, which of the psychologists is truly wrong and unprofessional: The first or last?

Again, not trying to sound mean, but think about those things before you get up-in-arms over not getting the diagnosis you want.

Not trying to be mean. Seriously, I can't stress that enough.



I find it funny that someone would actually want to be diagnosed an impairment.
I, myself, dread the day some shrink decides to give me a f***ing label like this.
People need to admit AS is a sketchy concept - even more so as people try to re-define it and exploit it - and therefore not put much hopes into understanding and gauging their own identity from that perspective.
It doesn't seem like any of this will ever consolidate into anything serious so it'll probably fade into the background with the emergence of the next dx fad and so on. . .


I am truly glad you are not affected by AS, Whisperer, and can toss it all aside so casually. Unfortunately for many of us we can not, as it is with us for life. So when you go on to the next fad, we will still be perseverating on our compulsive-obsessive need to think we have this f****ing label.

Merle



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12 Jan 2008, 9:25 pm

Sophist,

That's kinda what I said.

The line is when it affects your ability to function in other areas, for example: if one is only interested in a certain type of tree, and they cannot think of anything else but this tree [for an unspecified amount of time], their academia will suffer (as well as other important areas of functioning).



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12 Jan 2008, 9:27 pm

Sophist,

he didn't mean that you would be fixating on two things at the exact same second in time. He meant at the ssame time in your life. Theres a thread in the parents discussion right know about an aspie who fixates on thing at school and another at home. Many aspies are like that



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12 Jan 2008, 9:28 pm

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They'd much rather label the person with ADHD, OCD, dyspraxia, Executive Dysfunction, Social Phobia, and Giftedness rather than Aspergers.

Is Giftedness really a diagnosis? What does it mean?


Nothing official. It's more often used in educational settings. And some practitioners may also use it, even though it's not a DSM/ICD label.


I had someone in the parents' thread call their AS child their "GFG" and asked what that might be. It seems she got it from the child psychologist as 'gift from God'.

I will pass on my own opinion of such a monkier!

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12 Jan 2008, 9:33 pm

It seems I do not know what I'm talking about with ADD. I thought people ADD had trouble focusing! I had a co-worker/friend who had ADD and was on pills for it. He had trouble getting his work done without it because he couldn't focus on one task. Is it that ADD means no-focus or hyper-focus but nothing in-between?

Sorry, I really apologize for taking the conversation into new realms.
But, isn't that the way conversations are SUPPOSED to go?
I never know; there are so many rules with so many exceptions, I just can't keep track of them.



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12 Jan 2008, 9:34 pm

Triangular_Trees wrote:
Sophist,

he didn't mean that you would be fixating on two things at the exact same second in time. He meant at the ssame time in your life. Theres a thread in the parents discussion right know about an aspie who fixates on thing at school and another at home. Many aspies are like that


I understand that. But if you include an acceptable length of an obsession as short as a few hours or an afternoon, then it is impossible to discern a difference between an autistic obsession and a nonautistic obsession by length alone.

In other words, there is no definable difference via length or number of obsessions which would differentiate from a nonautistic obsession. It is by severity of the obsession.


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12 Jan 2008, 9:57 pm

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you're in luck! :wink: I have been a chick all my life.


Yesss! And here, I never thought webbed-feet were going to help my sex life. 8O :o :D :!: :wink:



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12 Jan 2008, 10:11 pm

k96822 wrote:
It seems I do not know what I'm talking about with ADD. I thought people ADD had trouble focusing! I had a co-worker/friend who had ADD and was on pills for it. He had trouble getting his work done without it because he couldn't focus on one task. Is it that ADD means no-focus or hyper-focus but nothing in-between?

Sorry, I really apologize for taking the conversation into new realms.
But, isn't that the way conversations are SUPPOSED to go?
I never know; there are so many rules with so many exceptions, I just can't keep track of them.


My understanding is that those with ADD can have excellent focus for things which interest them. They just have difficulty maintaining attention when they are not interested- due to executive dysfunction and problems with inhibition.



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12 Jan 2008, 10:24 pm

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My understanding is that those with ADD can have excellent focus for things which interest them. They just have difficulty maintaining attention when they are not interested- due to executive dysfunction and problems with inhibition.


Oh! It must be as hard to diagnose ADD as it is to diagnose AS. How do you differentiate between lack of discipline and dysfunction? Just like, how do you differentiate between a narcissistic world-view and social disconnection? It's all a rich tapestry.



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12 Jan 2008, 10:30 pm

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Merle wrote:
you're in luck! :wink: I have been a chick all my life.


Yesss! And here, I never thought webbed-feet were going to help my sex life. 8O :o :D :!: :wink:


only on WP, k96822, only on WP!


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12 Jan 2008, 11:17 pm

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only on WP, k96822, only on WP!


Ah, well, it's the most action I've gotten in 35 years. :wink:



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13 Jan 2008, 12:09 am

sinsboldly wrote:
Whisperer wrote:
Panzyo wrote:
Phagocyte wrote:
Well, maybe you genuinely don't have it.


Agreed.

Ever since I started coming to this board, I've seen bunches of threads about how psychologists have refused to give someone an Asperger's diagnosis.

...

Just because you don't get the diagnosis you want doesn't mean the psychologist is wrong or unprofessional. I guarantee that if you go to enough psychologists you'll eventually get the diagnosis you want, whether you really have it or not.

...

Again, not trying to sound mean, but think about those things before you get up-in-arms over not getting the diagnosis you want.

Not trying to be mean. Seriously, I can't stress that enough.



I find it funny that someone would actually want to be diagnosed an impairment.
I, myself, dread the day some shrink decides to give me a f***ing label like this.
People need to admit AS is a sketchy concept - even more so as people try to re-define it and exploit it - and therefore not put much hopes into understanding and gauging their own identity from that perspective.
It doesn't seem like any of this will ever consolidate into anything serious so it'll probably fade into the background with the emergence of the next dx fad and so on. . .


I am truly glad you are not affected by AS, Whisperer, and can toss it all aside so casually. Unfortunately for many of us we can not, as it is with us for life. So when you go on to the next fad, we will still be perseverating on our compulsive-obsessive need to think we have this f****ing label.

Merle


I understand EXACTLY where Whisperer is coming from. He's right. I wish AS WERE more meaningful, etc....

As for me, I identify with a lot of it. Not ALL, but a lot. I WOULD be miffed if I went and they disregarded my having AS. Still, if s/he could give me a reasonable reason, I would grudgingly accept it. Of course, talking to me for 30 minutes or less might not do it.

I won't necessarily stim, and they are subtle. Besides, my most obvious stim seems to indicate GREAT coordination, even though it almost started as a way to try to gain coordination that didn't work. 8-( I probably wouldn't have a meltdown. I can seem a bit social. I can seem to do small talk, and even joke. I probably know over 10 jokes I can fit in, and I can make observances, etc... that can be funny. I may not ramble, interrupt, etc... I have had over 35 years to learn to hide many of the symptoms. All of the above hidden symptoms WILL show up eventually, but maybe not in 30 minutes.

Frankly, if they found out there WAS a difference in the brain that could be viewed in a definitive and non-invasive way, I would do it TOMORROW! If I ran into problems with my job that were arbitrary, and based on it, I would get diagnosed. Otherwise, the only reason is for curiousity and acceptance by some here that insist. That is probably not worth the price.

I do find it funny that some just go and go and go to get the diagnosis they want. I never liked psychiatrists anyway.



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13 Jan 2008, 12:46 am

Asperger's, just like neurotypicism, is neither good nor bad, but simply a label that applies to a particular type of brain functioning. I do not understand why someone would want or not want to be diagnosed with it.



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13 Jan 2008, 1:02 am

k96822 wrote:
Merle wrote:
only on WP, k96822, only on WP!


Ah, well, it's the most action I've gotten in 35 years. :wink:


35 years! you ought to flex those little piggies that swum to market more often! :wink:



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13 Jan 2008, 1:10 am

Phagocyte wrote:
Asperger's, just like neurotypicism


~snip~
is that a real word? I could find no trace, not even as a mispelling, on Google.

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13 Jan 2008, 2:26 am

sinsboldly wrote:
k96822 wrote:
Merle wrote:
only on WP, k96822, only on WP!


Ah, well, it's the most action I've gotten in 35 years. :wink:


35 years! you ought to flex those little piggies that swum to market more often! :wink:


Considering I am 35 years old, "More often" ought to be replaced by, "Let dem little piggies out!" Then again, they get a lot of tending to while safe in their house of bricks, so do they really need to go out into the cold, cold world? After all, well, there are warm places for them to venture, but unfortunately their landlords seem to be f***ing crazy! :roll: