Women have the power to ruin your life

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29 Dec 2008, 11:18 pm

Shiggily wrote:
falsely accusing a man of rape is the only power a woman has?

ooooohhhhhhhhkkkaaaaay

Well not in general. I was referring to specific workplace "powers" held primarily by a single gender.


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29 Dec 2008, 11:39 pm

"But research by Francine Blau and Lawrence Kahn of Cornell suggests that, over the past two decades, education played the biggest role in narrowing the pay gap."

"the overall pay gap between men and women has continued to close in the last 15 years. That’s because so many more women have become college graduates and earned the pay premium that a degree really does bring."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/21/busin ... ref=slogin

or from another article

"Women currently make up 57% of all college students."

"Not only do national statistics forecast a continued decline in the percentage of males on college campuses, but the drops are seen in all races, income groups and fields of study"

"There has been no outcry, for example, on the scale of a highly publicized 1992 report by the American Association of University Women, How Schools Short-Change Girls, which compiled reams of research on gender inequities."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/ ... over_x.htm

so it only matters if it happens to a woman?

google all female colleges and then google all male colleges and see what kind of publicity each one gets.

google the highly publicized "controversy" of men breaking into female-dominated fields.

google the controversy of discrimination in medical fields where men are forbidden from seeing female patients naked, or to be alone with them (a woman must be in the room) while women are allowed to see male patients naked and be alone with them.

or male teachers needing to never be alone with a female student for fear of a sexual harassment or molestation lawsuit while female teachers can be alone with male students without the same fears.

How many male college students offer sex to their professors as a way to improve their grades? compared to female students.....



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30 Dec 2008, 11:27 am

Ruination topic

Any man ruins my life and he will be KICKED IN THE BALLS!


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30 Dec 2008, 11:32 am

I was (ahem) "romantically pursued in an unwanted manner" by my boss when I was 19.
I blew the whistle on him and ended up losing my job, and was never able to work for the company again. According to my file, I was "terminated" and for all I know he still works for the company.
So I guess I was thwarted from "ruining the poor guy's life"

I think the mentality was that he was the more important of the employees. He supposedly got written up.
I didn't want him to lose his job. He obviously had issues..I just wish that they had not made it impossible for me to work at Whole Foods ever again.

This event had a pretty profound effect on me.
If i had been more neurotypical, perhaps his advances would not have freaked me out so much and I would have been able to handle it in a more decorous manner. But i would have a severe anxiety attack anytime he came near me, and would not stop following me around.

If he had been more neurotypical, I imagine that he would have known better than to stalk the mousiest and most akward of all his employees...but he was, in retrospect, the most ASish boss I ever had.



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31 Dec 2008, 6:19 pm

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She still needs to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the sexual assault happened prior to anything being put into a record. The officials in charge must take pictures of her entire body where the alleged bruises and abrasions might be,


The presence of bruises and abrasions does not prove that the woman was abused. Maybe she inflicted the bruises and abrasions upon herself.

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she might also have to submit to a vaginal inspection and swap to show tearing and find any remaining sperm or spermicidal...


Easy. All she has to do is voluntarily have sex with the guy and then falsely accuse him of sexually abusing her.

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I can't imagine just making a claim would cause anything more than a minor investigation.

I'm much more afraid of children than men OR women.


True, but women can be more calculating, vicious and sinister.



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31 Dec 2008, 8:52 pm

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I've always wondered why the women are always assumed to be the innocent ones. I've met some pretty nasty women in my lifetime.


Because they try to make themselves look innocent.


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31 Dec 2008, 8:53 pm

If you choose your life in fear of mythical women who are going to falsely accuse you of rape*, the only one who is ruining your life is yourself.

*Actually, there are very few cases where rape is falsely reported.


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31 Dec 2008, 9:36 pm

What a strange thread. Men can make false accusations and get people into trouble too, although less likely to be of a sexual nature. But you can't get found guilty from the word of one person. They need several witnesses. Anyone who can get several people to lie on their behalf can get someone into trouble. I've seen men do this just as much as women, for all sorts of things.

I served on jury for a rape case. To me, it was clearly rape, because I could tell the guy was lying - but he was very subtle. He was able to come across as all helpless and gain the jury's sympathy. Whereas the girl he raped came across hard - because she had lived a hard life and she was simply being herself. It was a class thing too - her accent was more 'common', and she was more working class, and so people assumed she was a slut. She wasn't putting on a sweet innocent act like they guy was. Nearly everyone on the jury instinctively thought that he wasn't guilty, without using any logic at all. I analysed it logically and there were so many holes in his story. I put forward my arguments, and eventually we found him guilty, although a lot of the jurors had a lot of reservations, because they couldn't believe such a sweet guy would do such a thing. Once he was found guilty, the 'acting' look on his face changed instantly, and the jurors who'd been taken in by him suddenly realised that he really was guilty, especially when then all his previous convictions were read out. He could easily have been found not guilty though. He was able to fool so many of the jurors.



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31 Dec 2008, 9:51 pm

capriwim wrote:
What a strange thread.


I am simply wary of everyone and treat them all as if they would/could screw me over.



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31 Dec 2008, 9:53 pm

capriwim wrote:
What a strange thread. Men can make false accusations and get people into trouble too, although less likely to be of a sexual nature. But you can't get found guilty from the word of one person. They need several witnesses. Anyone who can get several people to lie on their behalf can get someone into trouble. I've seen men do this just as much as women, for all sorts of things.

I served on jury for a rape case. To me, it was clearly rape, because I could tell the guy was lying - but he was very subtle. He was able to come across as all helpless and gain the jury's sympathy. Whereas the girl he raped came across hard - because she had lived a hard life and she was simply being herself. It was a class thing too - her accent was more 'common', and she was more working class, and so people assumed she was a slut. She wasn't putting on a sweet innocent act like they guy was. Nearly everyone on the jury instinctively thought that he wasn't guilty, without using any logic at all. I analysed it logically and there were so many holes in his story. I put forward my arguments, and eventually we found him guilty, although a lot of the jurors had a lot of reservations, because they couldn't believe such a sweet guy would do such a thing. Once he was found guilty, the 'acting' look on his face changed instantly, and the jurors who'd been taken in by him suddenly realised that he really was guilty, especially when then all his previous convictions were read out. He could easily have been found not guilty though. He was able to fool so many of the jurors.


Wow, what an amazing story. You used your Aspie powers of logic to see to the heart of things. Thanks for sharing this.


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01 Jan 2009, 1:04 am

Shiggily wrote:
capriwim wrote:
What a strange thread.


I am simply wary of everyone and treat them all as if they would/could screw me over.


Statistically speaking expecting people to be helpful works out a lot better for most folks. That dynamic may be a little different for aspies, I'm not sure.


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01 Jan 2009, 1:38 am

One thing I do know, out of the few relationships I been in and the woman starts in verbally assaulting me I find I had much rather be physically assaulted then put up with the emotional abuse, I find females to be much MUCH more abusive then males when it comes to verbal abuse. physical injures can and do often fade but much of the verbal and other abuse men have to endure by females can and does last a lifetime, women are much better at it and seem to enjoy it more with seemingly little to no remorse.



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01 Jan 2009, 3:13 am

ike wrote:
Shiggily wrote:
capriwim wrote:
What a strange thread.


I am simply wary of everyone and treat them all as if they would/could screw me over.


Statistically speaking expecting people to be helpful works out a lot better for most folks. That dynamic may be a little different for aspies, I'm not sure.


I balance it. I don't treat people poorly. It is all mental. I merely make a notation in my mind that everyone is capable of anything and I do not put myself in situations where I feel I might be compromised, nor do I jump to conclusions about someone based on how I feel. The liar could be telling the truth and the honest straight-laced person could be lying. I will not assume the liar always lies and the truthful person always is honest.



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01 Jan 2009, 4:49 am

Saw a lady? with an interesting T shirt once:

"I have the p****, so I make the rules"


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01 Jan 2009, 10:05 am

Yes, there are times when a woman can unfairly ruin a man's life this way. However, think of all the many, many times that a man has ruined a woman's life by raping her and either got away with it or not (because either way, she has been horribly traumatized). Yeah, it's way, way more. So while guys have to take care of themselves too, that problem is not of nearly the same scope as women who actually *are* raped.j

Plus, bear in mind that women who falsely accuse men of rape are actually hurting real rape victims as well, because real victims are more likely to be met with skepticism.


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01 Jan 2009, 10:15 am

Shiggily wrote:
"But research by Francine Blau and Lawrence Kahn of Cornell suggests that, over the past two decades, education played the biggest role in narrowing the pay gap."

"the overall pay gap between men and women has continued to close in the last 15 years. That’s because so many more women have become college graduates and earned the pay premium that a degree really does bring."


The gap may be closing, but it is still there. Even in speech language pathology, a so-called "pink ghetto" (meaning a field dominated by women), men on average still make almost $9000/year than women in this field for the same job and the same amount of experience (according to statistics from 2008). I think you'll agree that that is quite a bit of money. So don't be fooled into thinking that women have achieved pay equality. That's still a ways off.


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