How strict is your conscience?

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i sthat the voice inside my head telling me to burn the infadels?

i was not offended but i did not know if you were joking.



maybe.
i can not tell if someone is joking with me.



conscience is an overall connectedness with other people and ones world in a "feeling", rather than a "sensory" way.
"guilt" and "pride" and "shame" and "compassion" and "sympathy" and "condolence" and "congratulation" and "humiliation" and "best wishes" etc come from conscience.
"guilt" is established in the superego as a reaction to performing actions that others would disapprove of, and NOT BEING FOUND OUT.
that is the important part. a child who is at an age before the superego develops, feels no guilt. if the child steals a cupcake from their mothers plate, and it is never noticed, then the child feels that no wrong was committed. if they are found out, then the child only hopes the punishment will be mild and that their mother will still love them. the child is "sorry" because it may have risked love. but guilt is not felt.

as the child ages and develops a superego, it substitutes it's authoritarian external world into it's own psyche (internalization) , and punishes its self in a conceptual way that is similar to how their mother or other "love givers" would punish them.
they take away some of their own self love because they have discovered what they have done, and even though no one else knows, they do, and they feel "guilty".

"shame" seems to be an extention of guilt but i have not thought much about it. shame seems to entail "humiliation" or something. shame seems to be a long-term lowering of self status in order to atone for the pride experienced while they did the things they feel guilty about. it is a fuzzy world of electrical static out there in the superego.

i do not agree that guilt holds society together. it may be a necessary ingredient, but it is not the cement.
"prosperity" holds societies together. the more the prosperity, the less the crime.
"pride" is associated with prosperity, and so it is the dominant factor that shapes and preserves communities.

self regulation and flagellation.



hmmm. s'pose


well i do have scant conscience as i said.
compared to extreme criminal psychopaths saddled with an additional "antisocial behavior disorder" i am a saint, but compared to ordinary people i am a cold eyed lizard.

i know no one really wants to know, but i will refine the resolution of my level of conscience deficit with a few examples.

if i have not enough meat for all my kookaburras and they are all lined up on my railing and i realize it before i get to the one who misses out, then i feel very bad. i say to him "just wait lil one and i will be back soon" and i go straight to the shop and get a new batch of meat and rush back. i have a sense of fairness.

when the world trade centres were hit on 9/11 i only focused on the buildings throughout the entire live coverage. i did not think of the people inside.
when they came down i was saddened at the change in the new york skyline. i always had a fascination for the world trade centres as they looked so perfect to me. i hoped the sears tower would not be next.
i then wondered whether the next release of flight sim would have the buildings removed.

i think i said that example somewhere else but it is an example i remember because of reprimands i got.

when the concorde came down i was sad. what a beautiful plane. there were only 20 concordes, and i knew we were "past" the age of supersonic flight (wowsers now), and it would not be replaced.

the 2004 tsunami was very exciting for me to hear about. i instantly knew there would be many tourists with video shots of the waves and i went looking for videos on the net.
yes the huge numbers of people killed was registered by me, but they seemed to my minds eye like they were ants from the altitude of my perception.
i did not think of any individual who may have suffered because it did not occur to my mind.

sometimes i see a story on TV about a miserable african child who is starving and that makes me sad. i wonder why she is living such an unlucky life when she did nothing wrong at all. when i think of how i would feel if i was in her place i shudder, and then i realize that she is in her place, and i feel very bad.
if i met her i would certainly give what she needs to be suckled back to health. i do have care for innocence.

i feel sorry for old people and disabled people and animals. my only connection with conscience is that i can feel sorry for things.
i feel sorry for lives that are unfortunate and i feel that i do not deserve any more than them, but i am just lucky to be better off.

but i do not get out much so i do not meet unfortunate people so i have little experience with it.


i do not worry about rejection. i can not care less about acceptance from 99% of people i see. i just know what is fair to do to the lives i encounter. i do realize they are alive now (i did not when i was a child). i care that lives are comfortable and easy, and if i see one close to me that is not, then i will try to help.

i have a limited and stunted sense of conscience but i am not a bad person and that is all.
i am not in the mix of society, but society will not suffer from my existence in any way.

Highly. I believe strongly in honour, loyalty and serious values.

As do I.

Oh wow, that's exactly how I've been my entire life. I never thought of it having anything ot do with AS, though. I just thought I was "overly sensitive" to everything.

Oh yeah and I say that outside of my Christian beliefs if that makes sense I believe for me it is an Obessive Compulsive symptom as I can have fear and guilt over issues and problems large and small

I have watched many times a total lack of empathy from 'normal' people towards the suffering they cause to others that would not go out of place with a sociopath imo. My conscience is to active for that. Thats why I am wondering if I have AS like my son.
I think some people who grew up in dysfunctional families are often the subject of movies. Look for the same theme of families that contain 'hero', 'scapegoat', 'lost child' and 'mascot'. Just watching "Bloodline". It has this scenario.

I see it this way: When people do wrong, it is not that there is necessarily anything wrong with their moral compass. It still obeys physical laws, but people have just stopped using it as a guide in navigating their way through life. Instead they use their surroundings as a navigational tool, they imitate others, follow "leaders" and have material gains in sight.

In one book I read was mentioned some characteristics shared by those who saved people during the WWII. Outside the war they were seen as gullible and rigid in morality. During the war they were people who followed their moral compass despite the ever changing political and social scenery surrounding them.

You become evil by stretching your borders, by walking further the road paved with excuses and lies.

My conscience is a bit TOO strict, that sometimes it holds me back to certain situations when I'm supposed to be harsh in said situation.

I don't know, it holds back my force and my control to some extent. It's making me indecisive and I don't like it.
I hate guilt, especially when what's done is done and cannot turn it back.
I hate being guilty over things instead of getting over it and move on to the next, like how I dislike to mourning over death when you can never bring the dead back.

Yes I've got a very strict code of conduct. I don't necessarily buy into anybody else's version. Mostly my rules coincide quite nicely with the general consensus, but there are some striking differences - if I were to rewrite the conventional rule book (if there is such a thing), I'd remove some rules and add a few of my own.