List one NT thing you do not understand.

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13 Oct 2010, 1:14 pm

Far too many to mention.



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13 Oct 2010, 4:09 pm

Gossip. And the fixation with celebrity culture. They can be mutually inclusive, can't they?


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13 Oct 2010, 4:11 pm

industrialx wrote:
Gossip. And the fixation with celebrity culture. They can be mutually inclusive, can't they?


I don't get this one either. Well, gossip I kind of get, because they want to know what their friends have been doing, but I certainly don't get the whole celebrity fixation.



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13 Oct 2010, 4:16 pm

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Gossip. And the fixation with celebrity culture. They can be mutually inclusive, can't they?


I don't get this one either. Well, gossip I kind of get, because they want to know what their friends have been doing, but I certainly don't get the whole celebrity fixation.


Celebrities, small talk, NTs not remembering things, NTs thinking Monty Python is stupid, NTs thinking there's something wrong with me because I take an interest in things. Er...


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13 Oct 2010, 4:17 pm

How they find things so easy. Like sosializing.



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13 Oct 2010, 4:24 pm

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How they find things so easy. Like sosializing.


That is very individual. A lot of them, the majority of them, are shy. Socialisation is an intuitive process, but they aren't perfect on it Most people assume that everyone are thinking like them, which is the reason why people generally dislike individuals who are unselfish, because they imagine that people must have egoistic character traits hidden.

Those who are best at socialisation are generally psychopaths, which also explains why a lot of psychopaths could be found amongst their leaders.



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13 Oct 2010, 9:27 pm

I don't get social niceties. (Is that a word?) Small talk... talking to random people who say hello to you.
And clothes. I'm in high school. What some of the other girls wear is ridiculous. Mostly I just wear comfortable clothes, like sweatpants and a hoodie. Why wear something uncomfortable?



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13 Oct 2010, 11:03 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
industrialx wrote:
Gossip. And the fixation with celebrity culture. They can be mutually inclusive, can't they?


I don't get this one either. Well, gossip I kind of get, because they want to know what their friends have been doing, but I certainly don't get the whole celebrity fixation.



I think they do it to make money. Journalists are paid to write about a celebrity's personal life like divorce or weight loss or them having a child, etc. and the magazine company makes money off it by selling those magazines. And people read it because they are curious. They see the headline on the front cover, they will take it off the shelf and buy it just so they read it.

Like I might be in a store and then I see a headline "Kate Moss gains 70 pounds" and there is a picture of her being pregnant on the front cover. I pick it up and read the article as I am standing in the check out line because I am so curious.



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14 Oct 2010, 1:12 am

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High Heels

Why do some women obsessively collect painfully uncomfortable shoes that damage their feet?

Are the pressured into doing so by other women?
Or is it men that make the shoes and force women to wear them?

Why don't women ask themselves why they put on these shoes?

If I was told to put on uncomfortable or weirdly shaped shoes, I'd defintely ask why!

I find them comfortable.


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14 Oct 2010, 1:41 am

The constant need to touch (I call it groping) me.

Slacktivism. Yeah. Ok. Go buy your little pink ribbon tchtochkies and don't do anything else. You're REALLY making a difference in the fight against breast cancer (its national breast cancer awareness month... march is national colorectal cancer awareness month but you never hear about that because diseased colons and rectums aren't sexy and we have to save our precious tits). Shopping makes allllll the difference in the world!

Questions that they don't want to know the answer to. I was crying at radiation the other day, in a different waitng room so it wasn't obvious that's why I was there, and this lady came up to me and asked me if I was okay. At first I thought of responding with "do you actually care or is that standard neurotypical banter?" but instead I just said "fine" I say I'm "fine" every five days out of 7 that I get the radiation and the attendants ask me "how are you?" but come the f**k on? Who am I, or they, kidding?

I don't get the nt girls going to the bathroom in packs either. I fixed that in junior high by telling my friends I don't need an entourage.

How people will STARE at you if you look/seem different in any way. I was sitting in my wheelchair the other day in the hospital, with this woman ogling me, and finally I said to the c**t "Take a picture. It lasts longer." I mean, a hosptal for f***s sakes. Apparently there WOULD be people in wheelchairs.

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How they show very little empathy for us, yet they expect us to have empathy for them.


this, completely

I swear I had a complete sociopath of an English prof. Taking her in front of the ADA and threatening to sue her was the only thing that got me to pass her class.

I also don't get religion. I know that some ASD people, probably in a proportion comparable to NTs, practice a religion, but everyone I've ever found struck me as so damned ridiculous and illogical.

Consumerism.

Small talk. I just won't do it. I'll even go so far as to pretend I'm deaf to avoid it.

The insistence on keeping eye contact. Before I got cancer again (this is round 3), my mom would point to her eyes then to the eyes ofwhomever I was supposed to be looking at. I just can't see the point. They KNOW I'm talking to them.

Speaking of knowing I'm talking to them, why do people call each other by their names when its just the two of them? My ex wanted to know what/if I ever called him anything (I didn't except in a double dactyl I wrote about cunnilingus). Its like... who the hell else would I be talking to, the cable guy?

When doctors want to shake my hand (again) right after I blew my nose... and as an added bonus, they refuse to shake my left hand, the one that actually works.


I actually get the fixation with celebrities. Maybe its because I did have a dream of going to film school before realizing I could never direct because of my AS, then I was an actress (I'm listed on imdb, although most of my work has been in theatre), and a writer... so yeah. I get it.


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14 Oct 2010, 4:49 am

I dont really understand why they normals say democracy when in truth not everyone is allowed to vote



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14 Oct 2010, 7:01 am

Knowing and remembering the real names of actors.

I can't do it. The closest I get is that I can say that an leading actor from fight club also played in American History X. Even when people tell me their real names I can't remember them. It doesn't serve any purpose to me and it doesn't seem relevant. Also I don't understand why people say some actors are brilliant. I mostly give credit to the script or casting.



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14 Oct 2010, 7:22 am

When they don't understand that you are happy alone. They feel the need to come to you and ask you what is wrong because you stay alone all day and you don't bother to search to make friends.



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14 Oct 2010, 8:18 am

The way they say that Aspies aren't aware with what's going on around you - and you realise that they're just as bad. When I was in Tesco the other day it was so packed I could hardly move, and other people were just pushing their shopping trolleys along without even looking where they were going, and were crashing into eachother. There was me, being extra careful and making sure I was looking where I'm going. I even got people stepping backwards and bumping into me, then looking round at me as though they had forgotten that they're in a crowded shop.

NTs can be in a world of their own too! :roll:


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15 Oct 2010, 7:59 am

This is an odd thread, but one thing that strikes me is most of the traits people are refearing too are in everybody, not just NT's. There are people with AS that do the exact things some people have said are traits of NT's and there are NT's which don't do the things some people have outlined. I fear this separation of NT and AS that seams to be evident in this thread is over emphasised.

You don't understand why NT's like lots of bags or shoes? I'm pretty sure there are lots of NT's that don't understand why I have several servers and networking equipment in my celler. I'm quite sure there are people with AS who like to collect bags. NT's shaking hands? I shake hands with people I meet, it's a west way of greeting that lots of people do and don't do regardless of whether they are NT or not just because you don't understand or do it doesn't mean it's an NT or AS thing, it's a you thing. I can't understand why some people do not like the music I love...but that has nothing to do with with me being AS, white, English, brown haird, blue eyed....it's just me and what I like and do not like, the same with people who do not like my music....



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15 Oct 2010, 4:19 pm

Radio Stations saying "More Music Variety!" playing the same songs over and over again.