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Yes, I thought that too. Very aspie sort of thing to do. Fail to connect the dots ahead of time. Fail to imagine some of the consequences. I think he probably isn't very aware of us, our feelings, etc either. We're just "idiots"/stupid if we sent him money, ( or got enough money for it not to matter ).

I was a bit like that, capable of this sort of thing out of sheer obliviousness to the concrete reality of other people and their feelings, especially during the increasing hypomania/mood disorder of my mid-twenties ( never told quite such whoppers though ), when people seemed increasingly like avatars in a MMORPG.
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okay, so i just read the whole thread. the whole thing. all 45 pages.

i can see now how these scams are possible, and i can see how it was carefully set up. for authenticity, seanmw used unwitting accomplices - people to fundraise for him, without even realizing what they are doing. not all of the people he seemed to be 'grooming' took the bait though.

i happened to notice, before, that he sort of flirts with women of a certain age, and speaks up for them on threads, and gets a dialogue started. then he starts to PM them and asks them to engage him offsite like as friends on FB (references to this are in threads on WP). more than once i wondered what he was going after... i figured it was sexual, but then he always talked about his girlfriend, so i knew i was wrong and figured i would never find out.

i saw him do that with 2 other women as well. those 2 women did not enter this thread, although they did speak up for him on other threads and pointed other people over here to help him. i think he was targeting women of a certain demographic in order to lend him some credibility for his 'fundraising'.

i also think he is a very inexperienced scam artist, because he left a lot of bread crumbs.

p.s. the points in the thread where he seemed least credible to me were the points when (in no particular order):

-he changed the diagnosis
-he did not properly research flight costs
-he declined to take the bus or book a cheap seat in advance
-he went camping while a sick girlfriend was ummm sick
-he had no details or specific knowledge of her sickness
-he did not know how to contact the mother (how about a phone book or calling 411? lol)
-he brought up his sister's (expensive) drug problem and eviction just as the fundraising was drawing to a close (the details of that eviction did not make any sense)
-he allowed us to have some doubts in his girlfriend, like he was a victim
-he made it seem like the communication from her was phasing out

i'm not holier-than-thou - i could just as easily have believed him as anyone else. i read this all at once, which prevented me from building any trust in his story. he always seemed like a nice boy on the forums. but who ever really knows?

Ya I sort of thought he was just a nice kid too but I never bought into his inconsistent
story. has Alex or the police been informed,because if this is fraud

hyperlexian, thanks for the post you made some great points. What I found odd was how some of the scammed were against the people pointing out the scam. Now thats manipulation.

I wonder if Superboyian, MoniqueIJ, TimTex, and TeaEarlGreyHot, ( all of them listed as Sean Michael Wilson's Facebook friends ), know what has been going on?

http://www.facebook.com/search/?init=sr ... ref=search

At least one of them has seen, and posted on, this thread; you'd think that they would have found the complete absence of info on his Facebook page about a girlfriend supposedly at death's door, ( and seanmw's desperate anxiety about her, his collecting money to go see her, etc etc etc ), rather bizarre to say the least.

Or has he told them that for some reason he doesn't want his mother, sister's, grandpa, or highschool friends, ( all of them on his Facebook friends list ) to know about the girlfriend and the illness etc? ... But even so his going back to college and apparent abandoning of plans to take plane to see Adrienne must seem weird to them? ... surely
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The absence of info isn't bizarre - were it me, I wouldn't post that sort of thing on FB directly - what helps give the lie to his story is the provided info that he's having a carefree time, and not a wee bit stressed. It's one thing not to mention that you're having trouble and stressed - stiff upper lip and all that - it's another to outright say you're fine when you ain't.

Hmmm, well I believed it at first, then gradually it all got muddled. I am not too bothered, it was my choice to donate, it was a very small amount of my social security that I could afford, and I gave without reservation. I think in future I will be less inclined to give where I cannot see the need and result with my own senses.

his grandad was playing facebook games every day from the 14th-24th august... wasnt some sort of fishing trip with no contact to the outside world sposed to be going down...

i did not boast about how much i gave. i just mentioned it. am i supposed to not tell what happened because it will make people feel that they have not contributed enough? i said once in the beginning that i would give him up to $250, and i said it on the board because i do not like to pm people. after that, it was him who announced that i gave him money in his "update" posts.
when i became concerned that it was a scam, then i wanted to reveal that he had already achieved his goal because i knew that with my $300, he would have $670, and still he was not going to do anything about it.

i just wanted to let everyone know that he had achieved his goal with money to spare, and then say that i am curious as to why he is idle in his efforts to go there.

i do not feel that i am a role model for anyone and i can not sense that anyone would follow in my footsteps, so i did not perceive that anyone would have thought it was legitimate purely based on my donation. if they did, then i am sorry. i act only on my own thoughts, and i give no consideration to how they may affect the actions of others. maybe i should learn a new lesson.



i have no idea how my actions affect the actions of others. i only said what i would be prepared to donate at the beginning of the thread, and then he posted updates on what he had received, and that included the money that i gave him. you are vastly more attuned to the dynamic behavior of a herd mentality, and i really did not give one second of thought to the possibility that others might part with money that they could not spare based upon what i said.

it was only when i started to think this was a ruse that i revealed how much i gave to him, and that was because i wanted to shine a light on how much he got and not to put myself in some sort of glowing limelight that makes me seem like a nice person. i do not want to be seen as nice. i want only to talk about simple stuff with people and that stuff is not inclusive of any aspect of me.


well you ride to the defense of the damsel in distress (stellar is a "she" i am sure that you know, but you do not let on that you acknowledge it due to the fact that it may look like a contrivedly valiant effort to defend her)).
i will give no more money to anyone on this site i promise you.
i have learned my lesson. i made a mistake. i redressed the stellar person because she was thinking ill of me, and now you intercept what i said to her with your heroic defense.


what a cross eyed twit you are. you dare to blame me for causing poverty of people with little money because i was stupid and gave what i could to what i believed in error?
i had no idea that people would give what they could not give because i gave what i could.

you are trying to elevate yourself in the eyes of others by framing an altruistic scaffold that hoists you on high in the eyes of others even though you were not even involved in the machinations of seans supposed plight. talk about a moral vulture!

you donated nothing and you lost nothing and yet you aim to profit from this situation.
yuk to you.






i almost believe it was a scam.
when i do believe it i will think of the sean person as just another dead loss like most of the people in the world.

i did not look at your profile. i am sorry i was so unkind. i assumed you were not diagnosed but i did not read it. you do not have to defend yourself because i will not attack you because the territory that you inhabit is not one that i wish to situate myself in.



i already explained why i said how much i donated. also, i do not work 8 hours per day for 5 days per week earning that kind of money.
i am not very rich. i have enough to live how i want to live and i have a bit left over and some of that is what i donated.

i guess you are correct in saying i only donated to make myself feel better.
i just thought that if he could not get to his dying girlfriend, and i could not be bothered to give him some of my money that was attracting spiderwebs, then i am a bad person.
so , to get around that thought, i just gave him some money.

maybe my motive was not angelic, but who cares. the result is the same none the less.



i will never see any other perspective than the perspective i am designed to see.



this is my last post in this agonizingly complicated thread.

to seanmw i say: live it up until the money runs out because you are a loser who will always try to suck the moisture off rocks.
you sucked some of my money your way, but your life will dry up if you do not get up and do stuff that earns you a buck for yourself.

Well spotted!

Yes, according to seanmw, he and his little brother and his grandpa are supposed to have gone away for a week's camping from the 15-22 August, somewhere without an internet connection, so that we weren't to be surprised if didn't hear anything from seanmw that week, nor if he had little or no news about Adrienne in that time!

And yet, as you say, according to "grandpa's" Facebook page/"Wall" he was playing Mafia Wars, Frontier Wars and other FB games every day for the last month or more, including between the 15-22 August. :lol ... Of course it might not be his grandpa, but an uncle ... .
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If Sean was really innocent in all this, I wonder why he hasn't come back on here to defend himself. He hasn't posted anything on WP since 29 August.

I can't even imagine a scenario anymore which could explain the last two posts on his Facebook page

and his week long absence from WP/this thread, plus all other data, and which would fit with innocence.
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B9 I am glad I have shamed you to the point of name calling. Because you should feel shame for attacking those who warn others of a potential scams. You even have sunk to the level of conjuring up lies. Nowhere in any of my posts did I accuse you of causing poverty. I did say your actions could cause finicial hardships such as not having enough money for something important like a doctor's copay because they saw someone give a lot of money to scammers giving the scam credibility so they spend their meager amount of money on the scam. Your true colors are showing, name calling and the generator of lies tsk tsk. .If you were not one of the people who would appeared to defend sean's scam you would have not been mentioned.



I could care less about what people I will never meet will be thinking of me. I do however do not wish to see people get their money stolen with trickery or falsehoods. If you believe that makes me a bad person then you are truely twisted in your thinking.

thanks. you raised good points right from the beginning - you saw it unfolding. but you also kept it polite and kind, just in case Seanmw was the one being scammed. you did a great job of educating people wayyyyyy back in the thread.

i don't understand why the people who were scammed seem to want to sweep it under the rug. they lost money, which can be recouped through the right channels. if they used a credit card through paypal, they can do a chargeback. or they can contact him on facebook or elsewhere.



Friskeygirl, yes, you were totally asking for evidence early on in the first couple of days. but people attacked you like you shouldn't question anything. it was annoying to watch how people reacted.

the moderators put a warning at the outset, and they knew WP members needed to beware. but people bought into it anyways.

wow that is some pretty amazing interwebz detective work!

Having seen this post I do not know why others did not catch on to the scam sooner. He posted how he was avoided by sean and how sean was posting that he has been renting movies. Sorry B9 about some of the stuff I said, I some how missed this post.

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