Optimism and Reality: Goldfish21 Response to me

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In the US, it is really not wise to reveal any “hidden” disability in the workplace.

Yeah, yeah, we have the Americans with Disabilities Act....but employers still have Carte Blanche for the most part as to who they can employ. All they have to do is say that a person was fired because his socks were too green (in most non-union positions).

Do you think they’d say to the judge: Yes, I fired that autistic MF?

But it may be wise to disclose to a potential employer in a STEM field who's somewhat familiar with the fact that ASD people work in those roles. A little communication goes a long way. If some guy hiring programmers wants a good programmer that can... program! Then he's not likely going to give a flying s**t if your eyeballs look like they're counting ceiling tiles while you solve coding problems and make him money. But if he's unaware that you're prone to avoiding eye contact and aren't in fact being elusive, mischievous, or rude.. then he may make assumptions about you during an interview and not grant you the job. If it's in one's best interest to disclose something, then do it. Also, it's not required to say "I'm Autistic, you probably won't hire me because of it," when all you need to say is "Please pardon my lack of eye contact, I have difficulty with it sometimes - but I'm more than capable of programming the f**k out of programs!"

Who cares what they say?

If you're able to create value, go put your skills to work to make someone else money who's more deserving of your efforts. Just because one employer is an a-hole doesn't mean someone else wouldn't be more than happy to pay you ever two weeks in exchange for making them more money than you cost them.

This is mostly relevant to people with IT skills.

I have none. I can only type and type fast. And use my brains at times.

I’ve been on my job 37 years. It’s civil service. But I revealed my autism, they’d do their damndest to get rid of my—though it would be quite difficult.

And who sets the criteria for the traits? If your traits do limit you then it isn't you that limits you but nature that limits you within the employer's and societal construct.

Thank You X 1,000,000. Do you see why GF needs to wake up and smell the coffee and put down the doobies?

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I have IT skills. I still could not figure out what I was supposed to do and I did apply to the Microsoft Pilot Program. They said no b/c they had everyone they need.

The USA is a diverse country of more than 300 Million people, which include employers that are disability friendly.

You can take your marijuana insults and shove them where the sun don’t shine as far as I’m concerned. People who smoke marijuana are no less cognizant than anyone else. Grow up.

BS!



Your message is to tell me that it is my attitude (as though attitude controls time and space) that is the cause of my issues when I explain my reality to you therefore denying my reality. I'm expected to accept a cultish belief system (which has some truth to it) w/o question that you and others in our nation promote which logic, reason and common sense can easily disprove and then you try to promote on here questionable methods and tactics in a long list without being a doctor or medical professional. I have ignored your condescending tone for the longest so I could keep an open mind to other possibilities including what you say. I will read your book you sent me and I will read your stuff but you refuse to see or accept a different way of thinking and others don't think like you. I said the marijuana insults b/c I was frustrated with you. Ya, maybe I should not have said it but come on dude. I'm willing to open my mind to differing possibilities even a possibility I could be wrong. I accept it as true that perception is reality once you explained it further. I can see why ASS-P and Ezra don't like you. My advice: Get a professional to test your theory of mind.

GF, are you willing to read these two books as well?

https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Choice-Pers ... 0300169868
https://www.amazon.com/Bright-sided-Pos ... 0312658850

I will apologize for my insult to you and XFilesGeek I apologize to you for possibly breaking any rules on wrongplanet. Please don't lock this thread.

I’m at the beach right now topping up my optimism levels.

There’s several things worthy of respectfully responding to in your last post. I’ll try to get to it tonight, if not, tmw morning.

Hey man, enjoy the beach! And make sure to use 100 SPF sunblock and don't get stung by sting rays or jelly fish. And look for sand dollars.

It's not the same thing and you know it. Mental/neurological/psychological disorders are exceedingly complex. And it's therefore an exceeding complex field of science.

I also have another complex condition that has many similar traits to autism. In many cases it's hard to say whether I'm having more issues due to autism or due to the other condition. My being nonverbal is due in part to this other condition. I needed qualified experts to know which is which and what is causing what and qualified experts to provide different treatments for the different though very similar conditions.

I told me iirc that don't know the full scope of mental/neurological/psychological disorders to know of other possible conditions or comorbids. Which would mean that you're just a layperson who is not formerly educated in a complex field performing amateur unqualified diagnosis and treatments.

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If you don't mind, would you be willing to tell what that condition is?

And you're right when you say "you don't know..." I will say this. I've known that something was wrong b4 I was diagnosed. But, I couldn't pinpoint what it was for a while. I discovered what it was by accident and got tested by a professional at the emory autism center. And the rest is history.

I kind of wanted to leave it an unsaid mystery for now to make a point that a person could easily not know what all is wrong with them. They may be fully aware of traits and symptoms but not know all the causes and or accompanying comorbids.

As usual I'm speaking to the audience. I gave up on trying to get through to the person I'm talking to a long time ago. He will just keep coming up with basically non sequitur scenarios and analogies.

cubedemon6073 wrote:

I read the story and I must say I love. It fits our modern times.

If you would like then to read Plato's 'Republic' as a whole ~ in which the 'Cave Analogy' features, here follows a PDF link of the book:

http://faculty.smcm.edu/jwschroeder/Web/ETHR1002/Global_Jutice_Readings_files/3.PlatoRepblic.pdf

In terms of fitting our modern times, it has since at very least historical records began ~ only becoming more crime and punishment oriented since approximately 15,000 BC.

The 'Cave' analogises the Imaginal embodiment, with the 'Shadows' being Reproductional embodiments of the Sensational embodiment in the past (as memories), and the 'Fire' tunnelled from the Soul within the heart of the Emotional embodiment that gives the light projection for the 'Shadow Play'.

As such the psychic radiance is the 'Sun' or light of the conscious sole or individual personality ~ which is inhibited by the (darkened) polarisation of the Soul embodiment, as can only in the direct sense then animate or vitalise the: (1.)~Sensational, (2.)~Reproductional and (3.)~Imaginal embodiments ~ in order that the show goes on.

This leaves the: 4.)~Emotional, 5.)~Communicational, 6.)~Sentimental and 7,)~Rational embodiments or sensibilities on standby mode ~ as more watching or putting on the show, and hence the 'Voices' in the background (i.e. those heard and spoken since childhood from, with, to and by parents and other authority figures ~ such as siblings, peers, doctors, teachers and so fourth).

I believe, sometimes, people do know their bodies better than a doctor.

And doctors are not infallible. And sometimes they think they are.

However, there are things that doctors are trained for. And they have diagnostic methods which we don’t have access to because we lack that training.

The ideal situation is when there is cooperation between doctors and patients.

People should go on drastic diets in consultation with a doctor and dietician. The professionals must listen to the input of their clients, and not think they’re God.

A person can do whatever they want with themselves as far as I'm concerned. But when that person wants to get others involved then it's not just limited to them any longer. Like wanting someone to travel long distance across an international border to visit them for a demonstration, consultation, whatever.

"I've done this and you need to do it too" "you need to come visit me" etc. If you started posting stuff like that kraftie, about whatever, I'd think the butter slipped off your noodle.

As a sidenote when I think about homeopathic self treatment I think about how Steve Jobs went that route when he probably could have been saved if he had left his treatment up to qualified experts. He finally realized what a huge mistake he made after it was too late and he was plenty intelligent.

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