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16 Dec 2010, 8:49 pm

Not sure if this has been asked ..

Why do NT's love to push when they can clearly see you're near a meltdown and you can't answer or do what THEY want you to do but they still push?

Someone pushes me to do/say something and I push back.



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16 Dec 2010, 10:50 pm

Thank you, Janissy! :D That makes sense!

It makes sense in my head, anyway. I guess I don't get it for the same reason I look at the lotto and wonder why you'd bet on that if you wouldn't bet on getting in a car crash on your way home. Why bet money on the lotto, but not on--

OH MY GOD INSURANCE MAKES SENSE.


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17 Dec 2010, 12:46 am

Janissy wrote:
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What joy do bullies get out of when they make fun of a person to their face and where they can see it and they full well know that person doesn't even respond to their insults and mean comments because they don't even know they are being made fun of?

This has happened to me many times and then I get told I get made fun of. I just see them as idiots because what's the fun of bullying someone if they don't even know they are being picked on? As a kid they would get pissed off when it happen and leave me alone but not all bullies do this. They just keep doing it.


I have an answer to that one.

The joy they get out of it is that they are playing to an audience....whoever happens to be watching. lThey get their kicks either from entertaining their audience, making themselves feel clever for making up a clever insult. It doesn't matter if the victim gets it. The importamnt thing to them is that the audience gets it and thinks, "that Fred sure is a funny guy..he really made an ass out of Shelley and she didn't even know it".

If there is no audience it's a very different thing. You, the victim, are the audience and they will try to get a rise out of you and keep escalating till you respond.


The former sort of bullying- where somebody is made fun of and its for the audience and not to get them angry- happened on American Idol several years ago and I think it's one of that shows' most shameful moments. There was a contestant named William Hung who was a truly terrible singer and very awkward too. Usually the terrible singers get axed at the very beginning of the show but the judges and the audience kept him on and mocked him mercilessly but subtly. He apparently believed that he was being kept on because he was a good singer. But he wasn't. He was being kept on so that everybody could laugh at what an awful singer he was and how he thought he was good. It was an ugly moment in that show.



Wow that makes lot of sense.

But on Babycenter in a group there someone posted a rant about her sister in law and just by reading her OP you could tell her SIL may have some social disorder, possibly AS. Well anyway she bragged about what she said to her on facebook to her face making fun of her about a question she asked her she thought was dumb. She didn't even pick up she was being made fun of so I asked her what joy did she get out of it if she didn't know she got made fun of and she didn't even answer.


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23 Dec 2010, 11:56 am

Why do they say Christmas is for children, when adults at work get Christmas bonuses and get took out on a Christmas meal, and there are gifts for adults in shops?
Christmas is a tradition what's been passed down generations for thousands of years, and it's a religeous festive holiday.
It's more magical for the children, but it isn't for children.


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23 Dec 2010, 12:15 pm

Why do they feel the need to ask someone 'what is wrong?' or even 'how are you?', even if they don't know you.


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23 Dec 2010, 7:14 pm

That they would rather be 'polite' and say nothing when you appear to be in distress.

That when I say 'I can't talk good right now' in my computerised shutdown voice they ask 'why?'

That they get angry at me for having a meltdown/shutdown/seizure combo and then go on about some sh** about me not wanting to talk to my step-family.

That they know you have autism but still say it's stupid for me to think about something in the way I do.

That they call me a hypochondriac just because I talk about autism a lot.

That every time I try to have a serious discussion with them they become sarcastic.

That they constantly say 'I was just joking' but still fail to realise I never get that they were just joking. Then when I tell them they say 'sure, whatever you want to believe.'

I don't understand why it's wrong of me to hate this person, when I have many logical reasons why.

That instead of providing concessions at a concert for me I'm the one that has to stay away and not disrupt the performance.

That you're not allowed to be hyper at said concert.

That they can show that they're bored when I try to bring up a topic but if I show I'm bored people say I'm rude.

Oops that was more than one.


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23 Dec 2010, 8:36 pm

I notice a lot of one upmanship among the NTs, especially males.

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23 Dec 2010, 8:48 pm

Nationalism/Patriotism

Everyone one should be a pacifist.



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23 Dec 2010, 9:09 pm

IvyMike wrote:
Nationalism/Patriotism

Everyone one should be a pacifist.


And when the Nazis come, should we march silently and willingly to the gas chambers?

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23 Dec 2010, 9:14 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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Nationalism/Patriotism

Everyone one should be a pacifist.


And when the Nazis come, should we march silently and willingly to the gas chambers?

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I would prefer to turn their own gas on them.
I'm no patriot though.
You can still not be a pacifist and not be patriotic.
I'm an Earthist.


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23 Dec 2010, 9:56 pm

I can't limit it to one reason... 8O
So here's four current/long-standing annoyances from an even longer list.

If you don't want to know how I feel then please do not say "And how are you today?". That's a question and I have an answer, so why are you getting all annoyed because I gave it?

Will you please stop flapping your mouth and making silly talk about nothing whatever. It's making me feel ill.

I am NOT lecturing you. You asked me how something works - and I know, so I'm telling you.

Sorry, no; I tend not to say "Good morning" because it's a pointless ritual.


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24 Dec 2010, 4:11 am

I don't understand why they get so emotional over trivial crap all the time.
I don't understand why they are so f***ing negative when it comes to other people they don't even know.
I don't understand why they can't understand me.
I don't understand what makes them different from me.
I don't even understand what it truly means to be NT so I wouldn't be able to pick out their behaviors because I DEFINITELY FOR SURE DO NOT know what is normal.

Maybe it's not just just NT's. Maybe I just has a probrem with everyone. :oops:


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24 Dec 2010, 5:15 am

I dont understand why it is so "Gross" or "wrong" for a girl not to shave their legs



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24 Dec 2010, 6:17 am

These are all related:

When I am trying to talk through a concept or problem with an NT, why do they seem to think I want supportive affirmations? Why do such affirmations tend to involve telling me that I did not see, hear, or experience what I saw, heard, or experienced?

Why, when I mention Asperger's Syndrome or autism to NTs, do they constantly bring up this one 10-12 year old autistic or AS child they once knew and try to tell me how I'm different from that child and thus not autistic (or not autistic enough)? I'm 30 years older than that child, and odds are good I was not identical to that child at the same age.

Why do NTs assume I see an AS diagnosis as a bad thing?



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24 Dec 2010, 8:28 am

The worry and the pretense. They care so much what others think and go to such lengths to pretend they don't. That's what socializing IS. I can't help but imagine what people could accomplish if they stopped that! Some spend their every waking moment on THAT! Why can't they just be happy? They are surrounded by wonder and awesomeness and they choose to focus on that? I don't get it.

I don't think I have a freakishly high IQ. I think the only reason I'm so smart is because I don't waste my every waking moment on that.

I blew up at a woman at work one day - I told her that she was 100 times smarter than she thought she was and 1000 times smarter than the others thought she was. I told her to stop saying she couldn't do things. I told her that she says that all the time. I said "You keep saying you can't do it, EVEN WHEN YOU ARE DOING IT!" I was SO mad and she cried and THANKED me! And now there's no stopping her! And she's in her 60s! Did she suddenly become HFA? No. She just stopped worrying about what the others were thinking, doing and saying.



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24 Dec 2010, 8:29 am

Verdandi wrote:
These are all related:

When I am trying to talk through a concept or problem with an NT, why do they seem to think I want supportive affirmations? Why do such affirmations tend to involve telling me that I did not see, hear, or experience what I saw, heard, or experienced?

Why, when I mention Asperger's Syndrome or autism to NTs, do they constantly bring up this one 10-12 year old autistic or AS child they once knew and try to tell me how I'm different from that child and thus not autistic (or not autistic enough)? I'm 30 years older than that child, and odds are good I was not identical to that child at the same age.

Why do NTs assume I see an AS diagnosis as a bad thing?


AMEN!!