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24 Dec 2010, 8:58 am

KissOfMarmaladeSky wrote:
This time, I have two things.

The first one is how people try to stay in an abusive relationship instead of leaving it or divorcing as soon as possible. I mean, why should you be worried about how you are percieved in the relationship or whatever illogical reason that people stay when they should concentrate on getting out of here...I'll probably never know what the reason is.


Amen!

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The second reason (very personal) is why people won't make an effort to understand me. I mean, the children in my class call me arrogant and rude because I "try to act smart and good" and "that I never talk to normal people", when I just like to read hard books and study genetic diseases, and that I'm just a quiet person who has no interest in getting to know someone who won't make an effort to know me first.


I used to wonder about that. I think it's related to the "eye contact" thing that they make such a big deal about. Eye contact is an invitation to talk about the other person. They want to be understood but have no interest in understanding us. But if we don't play that game, there's something wrong with us? That's absurd.

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I'm still young, so I'm not as rational as the rest of you (I'm 14, by the way, and I'm generally neurotic and irrational as it is), so please bear with my reasons. I haven't really learned about psychology as much, and the books aren't telling me the reasons why certain people choose to act vulnerable, so I need to get taught about why people do the things they do.


Don't let ANYone tell you that you are irrational. You are NOT irrational.

I just want to reply to each and every post here and say AMEN!! But instead, I will just say to everyone that the things you don't understand about NTs are not RATIONALLY understandable as they are presented. You can't take what they say literally because they don't mean what they say. Or, rather, they SELDOM mean what they say. One term that has come up, over and over again, is an NT idea about "reading between the lines". I tell them that I don't talk "between the lines" so there's nothing there to "read".

Don't second guess yourself. Just because they deny something that you've noticed and that is obvious to you, does not mean that you are mistaken. All it means is that it is something they think they are hiding. I'm not sure if others really don't see the things that are obvious to me or if it is just a matter of socially agreeing to pretend it isn't there, but it's there. If you notice it, it's there. You are seeing more clearly than they are because you are observing. They are not observing. They are imagining what others are seeing. They are trying to fit in. To them, "fitting in" is paramount. That's why we are such a thorn in their side. They are tired of "fitting in" but don't know how to stop. We should figure out a way to "teach" autism. We'd make a fortune!!

One thing I've noticed about other autistics is that no matter how miserable they appear to others, they are actually many times more happy than others. No, we are not like "them". THANK GOD!! !



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24 Dec 2010, 11:01 am

How they always go looking for bad in a person; for trouble. And, if they can't find it, they create it.


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24 Dec 2010, 2:54 pm

Why do NTs make slipping on icy pathways out to be really embarrassing? Slipping on ice shouldn't be in the embarrassing column when it comes to lethal paths in winter, because it's beyond everyone's control.

Why do most men let on when they have a cold?



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How come when you've woken up at an unwanted time (about 4 o'clock in the morning), and you're lying there wide awake, then when it's about 3 quarters of an hour before your getting up time, you feel sleepy and relaxed again - whatever your getting up time may be? It's really annoying!


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24 Dec 2010, 3:19 pm

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I dont understand why it is so "Gross" or "wrong" for a girl not to shave their legs
Uggghhh cuz it's nasty? Really though, do you expect people to logically justify why they find it nasty?



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24 Dec 2010, 5:09 pm

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turkey87953 wrote:
I dont understand why it is so "Gross" or "wrong" for a girl not to shave their legs
Uggghhh cuz it's nasty? Really though, do you expect people to logically justify why they find it nasty?


It's just body hair. Everyone has some. If there's no logical justification for it, why bother with it?



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25 Dec 2010, 12:30 pm

If every single NT in the whole world are apparently all ''excellent socialisers'' and can ''keep friendships in perfect condition from day 1'' (as all you Aspies think), then how come often they let eachother down a lot? For instance, they plan things then don't turn up, and don't even ring or tell them that they can't make it. They do it a lot to me and to eachother.

Also, how come I can't keep friends, and I'm thoughtful, friendly, reliable, trusting, kind, nice, not a trouble-maker, interested in them, sharing, understanding, and show I like their company? And some NTs are ignorant, rude, too hyper, careless, stroppy, lazy, unreliable at times, teasing, and even boring, and they have lots of friends?

And why do some NTs always joke with eachother? It's really annoying! Every time they talk to eachother, it's usually a silly humorous tease, and it's never a descent conversation. I like more serious NTs, the one who you can joke with sometimes (which I like), but still can have normal conversations with.
A couple of my colleagues are always fighting with eachother, but in a jokey way, and jokes are OK sometimes, but it gets a bit irritating when they're always humorously bickering all the time. Then when I try joking with people, they always take it literally with me - which is really frustrating.
Get this:-

When it got really busy at work one week, and my friend Y was on his day off, my friend Z wrote a text to Y asked, ''are you coming to work today?'' (because they were really busy), and Y put a jokey text saying, ''piss off!'' and Y just laughed and showed me (he knew it was just a joke). I laughed too, because I knew it was a joke.

But once Y text me one morning saying, ''I won't be in work today,'' and I put back a jokey text saying, ''is it something I done ha ha'', (the ''ha ha'' always hints that it's a joke), but he seemed to have took it literally an put back saying, ''no, it's nothing to do with you! I am ill, that's why!'' and he didn't text me any more that day.


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25 Dec 2010, 1:26 pm

Why someone would want to watch sports.
Why someone would want to play sports.
Why someonewould persistin playing sports after being hurt.


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28 Dec 2010, 3:00 pm

Why they put their napkins on the lap when eating. I know why they do it, it just seems unusual that they wouldn't have a napkin for their face as well.


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03 Jan 2011, 1:17 pm

Why some people (mostly men) criticise whatever you like doing, but if they liked it then they wouldn't criticise.

My uncle is a good example. He's into computers, and could surf the internet for hours, and I like doing that too, and so he doesn't criticise. But if he didn't like computers and surfing the internet, he'd be onto me like anything.


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03 Jan 2011, 2:42 pm

Why girls are only attractive to some boys when they are super skinny, very fair-skinned, don't have any "markings' (such as scars, pimples or birthmarks) on their bodies, blonde and tall?


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05 Jan 2011, 5:03 pm

They say Aspies aren't always aware with what's going on around them when out in public, and they say Aspies are rude, and they say Aspies this and Aspies that.....hold your horses a moment there! Why don't NTs take a good look at themselves! I work in a small charity shop, and yesterday I was carrying a massive box through the shop to put out the back, and there were lots of customers in there at the time. I was wearing my snow boots (so you could always hear when I'm coming!) and I was easy enough to be seen because of this big box I was carrying - and a customer just stepped back, right on top of me, and seemed oblivious that I was coming. It was like she thought she had the whole shop to herself - she didn't seem aware that it was a small, narrow place with lots of people shuffling about close to eachother in there. And another customer done that aswell. Most of them do. I thought NTs were more aware of their environment, as so I hear in all the books about AS. When I'm looking in shops, (especially small narrow shops), I can see if there's anyone near me just by looking in the corner of my eyes, and I always know if there is somebody behind me because I am just aware of it. I'm never in a world of my own - my eyes and ears are always open.

Also, I was busy putting lots of clothes onto one of the rails, and it was obvious that I was busy and using that particular space, and a customer stood right next to me, wanting to look exactly where I was trying to work, and she literally nudged me out of the way and stole my space. I thought that was very rude, and lots of customers do that. I mean, I understand people doing that in Tesco or other supermarkets because people usually go in supermarkets to get things - not just to browse, but in small charity shops you are usually just browsng around, so if there is somebody standing somewhere you could just wait until they're finished, or look somewhere else in the shop.

I think NTs can be so rude, and oblivious at times. It's me who isn't. I thought NTs would know better.

NTs are like Aspies in some ways. When it comes to women and shopping - they are in their own worlds, no matter what. They'll go through hell and high water, just to get to a really good-looking jumper or whatever. Just like Aspies do with our special interests (well, except that I don't fall into a world of my own even when persueing a special interest). I'm obsessed with buses, but I'm still aware of who and what is around me when I'm in the bus station.


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05 Jan 2011, 5:37 pm

Why NT males have to walk like they have something stuck up their ass. i.e. That swaying walk.

Why when an NT girl hangs out with multiple guys, she's a whore, but when an NT guy does, he's commended.

I also never understood why NT guys have to be jerks either.



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06 Jan 2011, 6:32 am

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Why do they need to shake hands when they meet/see someone? What the hell kind of significance does grabbing someone's hand have?


The hand shake dates back to the original wave of the hand which showed that the person waving was not carrying a knife, club or rock. Then it kind of evolved into a hug that you do with your hands. I know aspies are supposed to be averse to physical contact but when I get past that feeling of aversion it feels really good. The handshake doesn't work unless you really get a good grip (not to the point of crushing their hand!), but it's still not as good as a hug. (He likes hugging people?! Intruder! Exterminate!) Ha!



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06 Jan 2011, 6:35 am

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The worry and the pretense. They care so much what others think and go to such lengths to pretend they don't. That's what socializing IS. I can't help but imagine what people could accomplish if they stopped that! Some spend their every waking moment on THAT! Why can't they just be happy? They are surrounded by wonder and awesomeness and they choose to focus on that? I don't get it.

I don't think I have a freakishly high IQ. I think the only reason I'm so smart is because I don't waste my every waking moment on that.

I blew up at a woman at work one day - I told her that she was 100 times smarter than she thought she was and 1000 times smarter than the others thought she was. I told her to stop saying she couldn't do things. I told her that she says that all the time. I said "You keep saying you can't do it, EVEN WHEN YOU ARE DOING IT!" I was SO mad and she cried and THANKED me! And now there's no stopping her! And she's in her 60s! Did she suddenly become HFA? No. She just stopped worrying about what the others were thinking, doing and saying.


That's awesome. I think I have reacted the same way in several situations. Let's do it some more!



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06 Jan 2011, 6:46 am

There are too many, but I am slowly working them out. The dating thing is the hardest, how do they know they like each other? I can never tell the difference between 'friendly' and 'extra-friendly' except that if someone likes you they will quite often not talk to you which is the same as if they didn't like you. Keh?



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06 Jan 2011, 7:36 am

GroundhogDaze wrote:
gramirez wrote:
Why do they need to shake hands when they meet/see someone? What the hell kind of significance does grabbing someone's hand have?


The hand shake dates back to the original wave of the hand which showed that the person waving was not carrying a knife, club or rock. Then it kind of evolved into a hug that you do with your hands. I know aspies are supposed to be averse to physical contact but when I get past that feeling of aversion it feels really good. The handshake doesn't work unless you really get a good grip (not to the point of crushing their hand!), but it's still not as good as a hug. (He likes hugging people?! Intruder! Exterminate!) Ha!


I never realized until now that a handshake truly is just functional to me. I understand that it is a way of showing respect to others, but I just do it because I'm supposed to do it. When I shake someone's hand, I am constantly aware of the pressure I exert and that they exert. I want to be sure it has been done properly. It evokes no feelings, other than pride that I have accomplished the task well...lol.


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