WP members GF ill with cancer

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I've read this thread from the first post.

I honestly thought Sean wasn't capable of answering the questions or finding out the facts. In capable I mean he didn't have the skills to understand, the skills to even be able to discern if this girl even liked him. I didn't think he had the skills to see how lame he sounded. Sorry...but it was iffy on any of his thought processes were legit. I was wondering if he had a 'guardian' that even knew he was making these kind of plans. I was wondering if he was someone not out in the world on his own.

But then I did think he was fishing for extras when he posted the costs of chemo. All his estimates of costs were completely wrong, but then again it could be due to him not being capable of seeing any of this clearly.

Given all these observations I felt sorry for him, his innocence, his lack of ability to see he could be getting scammed, especially as the story went on. It was outrageously too lame to be believable...too full of holes...dumb questions....OFFFFFF the scale unbelievable.....scary scary that he was even thinking of VISITING her

I understand why someone would come into this thread at this point and say....hey wait for the facts. But really if you read through this thread, really read through this thread there are only 2 conclusions that are possible.

Sean is either

1. a scammer to the max
2. a person incapable of having the skills to be out in the world on his own(after reading his posts the only way I would have donated is if his mother came on this thread and with some proof she was his mother and she would never let him go without checking it out with A's mother -- because A is just as incapable of understanding -- and she will take him to the airport, and A's mother will pick him up------because his posts do not show it is a safe thing for him to go anywhere alone.........................does anyone else see this factor????????????????????)

And that would all be ok, nothing wrong with being challenged, I know when I need help figuring out stuff, I can't help the things I need help with..........



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Ok. What is that like 5 bucks?

I more or less agree with you, except that I think an awful lot of people with this sort of deep disconnect from the basic facts of life are out in the world at that age; I was almost as clueless ( if not more so ) at his age, and yet was already living away from home at a campus university, running up bank debts, having an abortion because I really hadn't taken in that sex might lead to pregnancy, etc, etc, etc.
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I know I only read this thread because you continue to be brilliant and humble. I hear you making dumb choices, being wack in the world. I enjoy your investigative reporting, digging and you staying open to the positive outcome. I could care less what he has done, I'm with you on caring more about what is the truth. It is a good mystery and if he just went wack a little oh well, tell the truth. Been there, done that, don't care...have some guts. You are awesome, have loved your tenacity. It has bugged me in the same ways.

hugs to you

AS is not blame. My buddy when he was in prison and was milking his pen pals for cash and stamps the majority of them were college educated with well paying jobs NTs who were lonely, nice, and lookin to help. He was just very convincing in his lies and manipulations. He also had help from the of other inmates who were running several pen pal scams who told him what works and what doesn't. He even claims to have convinced a couple of women to move to Buffalo to take care of him since he cannot find the job. One of them is a grade school teacher who has to move from Baltimore Maryland. He plans on staying with whoever can get a job first. This was done by a short pot bellied average looking guy who did not finish high school taking special education courses. These women will probably fight over him like he is a super model.

Wow! Massively emotional thank you for those incredibly nice words!
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Are you serious?

Why do you all think he is a fraud? You should really be sure before you call the cops on the poor guy.

If he is telling the truth you'll just add more stress.

Perhaps he is absent from here because of stress. or she dumped him and he is ashamed , or wore yet she died and he is full of sorrow. and he is only on face book and not here because he needs comfort from close friends and family.... or many other things. dont jump to conclusions.

Just because you donated money doesn't give you the right to follow him around the internet stalking him and demanding his presence here. you donated money freely. you donated, you aren't paying for a service. so you dont have the right to expect anythign from him.

I have been treated this way on other forums and thought the people responsible were heartless. I am ashamed to see such treatment of others here on wp. this is a support forum have you forgot this?

Remember just because your online doesn't give you the right to treat this guy so poorly. remember he is a real person with feelings too.

why dont you all back off and dont jump to conclusions.

Wait till he explains and if he doesn't dont ride his butt about it. he will come back eventually if you haven't scared him off already.

He would not have spent months posting just to make a scam. it takes to much time and would be much easier and pay more to work for it.

Why would a scamer put there real name so easily accessible. it doesn't look like a scam.

why are you all so bothered. are you that bothered about being wrong about something that you have to make a witch hunt out of it?!

I have given money before and been tricked. I have let people borrow money and never got it back. in fact i am out 15 bucks right now for that same reason.

you give cause you want to. be aware you may get scammed, or lied to, but you give cause you want to and without strings attached.

Lets see, we have prof that he was out asking for how much cetain cancer procedures cost so he could make his lies sound more credible for one. People posted other bits of info if you go back in this post and look for it.



Perhaps he has relized his scam has been uncovered.Why has he not asked the people on his facebook page to help or mentioned how mournful he was?



What are serious? He made a promis to keep people updated. Once he made that promis he set himself up to have people demand to be updated.



I am ashamed for you for having to attack the people who are warning others of the scam keeping the innocent from being robbed. This being a support forum is all the more reason to be angry at a scammer taking advantage of people's kindness.



Give me a break I personly believe he doesn't even care he probably is busy playing xbox360 to care.



Maybe you you should take your own advice and stop trying to shame his accusers and victims from getting to the bottom of this.



Do you mean give him time to get his lies straight?



He probably was not desperate for cash back then or maybe saw an opening he could exploit.



This most likely was his first scam and thought he covered his tracks well. Most people are not too savvy on how to track people on the internet,



You better ask yourself why you are so bothered by people trying to warn others of the scam. Why are you protecting a probable scam artist?



No one here that gave money thinking someone with such a high post count or someone who they thought were friends with could screw them over.

I still don't think there is 100% certainty that Sean is the scammer. His absence from the discussion is disturbing, but short term absence is not proof. Now if doesn't come back in the next week or so and still updates on myspace/facebook, then yes, he is deliberately avoiding WP and that action is proof.

Now, I sent him an email at the mail he used for setting up his paypal asking him to address this thread. Even if he doesn't have immediate internet access he should at be able to check his email on his phone and get back to me.

For those who are curious I ran an inexpensive information check and Sean Wilson is a real person and he is where he has claimed to be. If he's trying to scam, he doing a sloppy job of it as it his identifying information is all over the net. (Haven't had so much luck trying to confirm if Adrienne is real though, just able to infer that's she's an Indiana University student from the photos provided, or at least the person in the photos is)

I saw that Yahoo page yesterday. All it proves it was that he was asking about the cost of the stomach cancer... and in a way that didn't make much sense. Which kind of correlates with his general medical ignorance displayed earlier in this thread. If he wanted to be accurate about the costs, it takes only a few minutes to find this information online.

I saw this when it first popped up and was immediately struck by 2 things:

1- obvious scam

2- hale_bopp is naive

3- she was never actually his girlfriend

Having now caught up with it ALL, including the MySpace, Facebook and yahoo pages and think it's now pretty clear it's a scam. There are a number of lessons to learn from this though:

1- there was no contract and he never claimed to be a registered charity, therefore there is no comeback for donators. Always ensure validity before sending anything!

2- don't trust something just because others seem to. Many of you proved early on that you're as naive as hale_bopp was, particularly the ones who donated just because b9 seemed to (not saying he didn't but nobody truly knew!). TeaEarlGreyHot still seems very naive in regards to Sean but if she's not donated and believes him to be a friend maybe has more reason to want to believe his genuinity.

3- stay away from that new guy (can't remember the username) who is clearly Sean, regardless of what mod's can check - as has already been stated, they can easily be fooled!

I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad for believing but i've invested a fair amount of time in reading this thread so felt I needed to give my views. Some of you have probably already invested too much time and money in something which will likely have no conclusion on here...

Also, I feel I should point out that i've read and then responded to this thread via my mobile - Sean could have done the same if that was the only access he had!

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I gotta admit I was disgusted when people were calling this a scam when someone was sick and Hale Bopp was generous enough to help support Sean to go see his girlfriend. I mean there was no proof at the time this was a scam but now it turned out to may be true and I am almost 100% it is. After the evidence Ouinon posted and yowlingcat.

Just-me thinks the OP is innocent so she is just disgusted by these accusations is all. She doesn't believe he is a scammer. I didn't want to believe it either and was hoping he was the victim of this and his gf had lied to him and he was too embarrassed to come back here and say you guys were right and admit he was wrong. Then be the laughing stalk of this place and seen as foolish and be viewed differently than before. If he was indeed the victim here, that be the reason why he wouldn't return to WP.

SBI sent him a message last night and now we're waiting to see if he responds.

Yeah this may be an aspie forum so it's easy to assume someone here be honest who has been a member here for a while now. I do think it's manipulation to join a forum and gain everyone's trust and then make up a story and keep it going for months and then someone else decides to set this up because she believed the story. Maybe he told her he wished he had money to go see her and wished her family had money for surgery but can't afford it hoping she set a funraiser for him or someone. I don't know if he has made posts here about his girlfriend being sick and saying how he is broke and can't afford it or how her family can't afford it. This is just a speculation of what he did. I haven't read all of his posts here so I wouldn't know if he's posted about it or not. I didn't even know his gf was sick until this thread was posted.

I must say I don't like making posts on mobile phones so I don't. Just because you do doesn't mean someone else will.

I am probably being contradicting in this post but that's because I have mixed thoughts and I am still not sure. I can't make up my mind.

something i've been thinking about is how he didn't actually obtain much money. but that doesn't make it less likely to be a scam (or dishonest, at the very least), because we don't know how much he eventually intended to obtain - we only know how much he ended up with.

it seems, however, that he only needs to read the last few pages of this thread to come up with varous excuses, as our speculations have handed him a choice of explanations on a silver platter.

Thanks. I must have read it wrong last night. Sleep deprivation is a b***h, sometimes.

You're right League_Girl, just because I'm doing it on my phone it doesn't mean others will but if you've commited to keeping people informed about something online and mobile is your only access then you do it. I only mentioned it as Sean used it as an excuse with his new WP name.

I actually dislike using mobile for this too but have little choice since my pc broke.

Really? I don't think anyone here truly knows. Some people I'm sure, would have been discreet in donation.