difference between Asperger's and high functioning autism

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Jediscraps
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14 Jan 2011, 11:39 pm

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I find that I sometimes talk on autopilot, like my brain and thoughts are not entirely engaged with my mouth when I talk to people. I mean, to the point on occasion that I may as well just not talk. Sometimes this gets really bad when I completely zone out of a conversation while continuing to talk, and even miss instructions or information while I agree I understand it (this happened at the end of December while doing some paperwork). I usually just keep using scripted phrases and responses in these situations.


I don't think I could speak on autopilot. I'm not sure I ever do that. I can certainly zone out in listening to others talking and come back and realize I was gone.


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There is one person who lives in the same house as me with whom I either won't talk at all, or I only speak to in the above fashion. It is very difficult for me to actually communicate what I am thinking to him, and I usually tell someone else and she passes it along. This is completely informal, however, and has been going on for the five and a half years I've lived here.


I wonder if this particular person gives you social anxiety?


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So I think I'll likely be diagnosed with AS, and I have language problems. Anne Corwin (the blogger linked above) is diagnosed with AS. I think others have talked about this here on Wrong Planet. I think that it's easier to hide these problems because of verbal fluency.


I can be fluent but I'm not perfectly sure I have verbal fluency.



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14 Jan 2011, 11:55 pm

Jediscraps wrote:
I don't think I could speak on autopilot. I'm not sure I ever do that. I can certainly zone out in listening to others talking and come back and realize I was gone.


This happened while I was getting help applying for SSI at the end of December:

I started mentally checking out of the conversation because it seemed like we were going over end-of-conversation pleasantries and I just sort of stopped being present (my sensory impressions of this time are more of a blur of light and sound and few specifics), when I tuned back in, I was either answering "Yes" to the question "do you understand what I just said?" or I vaguely recalled answering it a moment before (I'm unclear on this), and she had no indication I wasn't paying attention (or said she didn't) but she could have just missed cues. Anyway, I had her go over the instructions again.

It actually happens to me often enough to be noteworthy but not consistently.

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There is one person who lives in the same house as me with whom I either won't talk at all, or I only speak to in the above fashion. It is very difficult for me to actually communicate what I am thinking to him, and I usually tell someone else and she passes it along. This is completely informal, however, and has been going on for the five and a half years I've lived here.


I wonder if this particular person gives you social anxiety?


Possibly. I don't think I have social anxiety as a thing in general. If you mean does he give me anxiety, well, given that he constantly talks down to me and occasionally treats me like a child I do not like him much at all.

He also pitches a little tantrum whenever he says something to me and thinks my reaction is a bit off, which is like... every single time. Honestly, the way he interacts with me is just downright confusing.

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So I think I'll likely be diagnosed with AS, and I have language problems. Anne Corwin (the blogger linked above) is diagnosed with AS. I think others have talked about this here on Wrong Planet. I think that it's easier to hide these problems because of verbal fluency.


I can be fluent but I'm not perfectly sure I have verbal fluency.


I mean ability to use words and string them together, specifically. I'm pretty good at this.



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28 Mar 2011, 1:38 pm

Jediscraps wrote:
I have some questions.

Do those with Asperger's not have language problems? Or tend not to? Are those with Asperger's good with language? And by that, I am meaning speech. (EDIT, actually now I'm curious about both speech and using language in writing).

Are those on the spectrum with language/speech problems more with the autism diagnoses (and by "autism" I am talking about the specific autism spectrum diagnoses, of "autism").

For all I know both can have speech and language issues and I guess it's all likely to change to ASD but I am just wondering.


I'm diagnosed with Asperger's, but I have always been very tense around the muscles used to speak, making me mumbly, also I always run out of breath in very inappropriate places when I speak, and I also have this thing, like some sort of tic I think, where I momentarily freeze up my speech and breathing and tongue, like go totally rigid, just for a second. Speaking always feel like a big effort for me, it feels like translating thoughts into words is really hard work. I remember my parents saying to me that they were going to send me to a speech therapist when I was a kid, but for some reason they didn't get round to it...



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21 Aug 2011, 1:10 am

Actually hfa can be very gifted an ad get phds like temple grandin. Yes people with aspergers do TEND to perform better then those with autism, however not always there are many aspies I have surpassed in my life and many I am equal to I am not as good as all of them but I got diagnosed with hfa at a young age and then went on to improve greatly I have always prefered to be near people and have often loved being near people I am probably an autie with many aspergers like traits. Problem is when the dsm comes out they are not going to differentiate between the two they are going to classify them under the same heading. Also with autism the more you work it the greater your sensory tolerance can become.



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22 Aug 2011, 4:51 am

In the German manual(or was it the european?) There is no difference made beween hfa and as.



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22 Aug 2011, 10:58 am

morrison wrote:
In the German manual(or was it the european?) There is no difference made beween hfa and as.


If you are talking about the ICD, AS and autism are also separate diagnonis (although the ICD says that the validity of the diagnosis of AS is uncertain).