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17 Feb 2010, 1:17 am

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I do it sometimes, and I find the sensation comforting.


I don't, I find it hard and exhausting, I could never possibly enjoy it.



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17 Feb 2010, 1:26 am

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Autism in many ways seems to recapitulate juvenile behaviors but it's adults functioning with immature brain networks.


Immature brain networks? Or incomplete / different brain networks?

My theory is that the (hippocampal?) fast feedback response that underpins theory of mind in normals is dysfunctional in aspies, leading to "mind blindness" and the rest of it. Most of the other autistic traits are flow-on adaptations to that fundamental disorder.



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17 Feb 2010, 6:26 am

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M_p_furo: That was the most giggle worthy post I have seen on this thread! Fantastic!


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Graph Jams are awesome. Kudos on the awesome link.


Thank you both. I'm glad you liked it. :D
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17 Feb 2010, 7:07 am

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Wow, this thread is amazing. I was laughing so hard.

Bhkh...person with really long gibberish name...I am going to assume that you are not a troll and say that you need to study logic. I'm not necessarily saying this as an insult, but it teaches you the difference between valid and invalid argument.

An argument is valid if the premises force you to accept the conclusion. For instance:

Premise 1: Jerry is in the room.
Premise 2: Jerry is an orange cat.
Premise 3: There is only one orange cat in the room.
Conclusion: This cat must be Jerry. (1, 2, 3)

If you accept all of the premises as true, that conclusion must be true. But if I made an argument like this...

Premise 1: Jerry is in the room.
Premise 2: Jerry is an orange cat.
Premise 3: There are three orange cats in the room.
Conclusion: All the orange cats are Jerry. (1, 2, 3)

...that is invalid because accepting the premises does not force you to come to the conclusion. The second example is the kind of argument that you are making. Let me outline it.

Premise 1: I feel like I understand things slower.
Premise 2: I am autistic.
Premise 3: I understand things more slowly because I am autistic (1, 2)
Premise 4: Some other people are autistic.
Premise 5: Other people are autistic because they understand things more slowly. ( 3, 4)
Premise 6: Neurotypicals that I have spoken with agree with me.
Premise 7: My mother agrees with me.
Premise 8: Neurotypicals are better than autistic people.
Premise 9: The theory must be correct (6, 7, 8)
Conclusion: All autistic people learn things more slowly. (5, 9)

You are using yourself as an example and assuming all autistic people are like you when they are not. I, for instance, learn things more quickly than my neurotypical peers. It's like saying that because one dog has black fur all dogs must have black fur. Not valid. Also, just because a few people agree with you does not mean something is correct. This is all based on faulty logic. And other autistics find it insulting, for good reason. Also, you put way too much stock in what neurotypicals say. They are not special. They are not better than you. It's possible for someone to be neurotypical and be a complete idiot. Also, it's not like you're a researcher doing a study--you would need a larger sample of the population to reach this kind of conclusion than just one person.

It is dangerous for you to tell this theory to the parents of autistic children and let them think that maybe this is the reason for their children's autism when it may not be. This will cause lack of understanding and will cause the relationship between parent and child to deteriorate. They don't necessarily know anything about what is going on in their child's mind and you are not helping them understand it in any way.

You seem like a very confused young person. I hope you find peace with your autism. Assuming, again that you are not a troll because I really don't know.


I have Hans Asperger syndrome/"HAS".



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17 Feb 2010, 7:09 am

I'm at peace, just to let you know, I'm more happy than the common person.



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17 Feb 2010, 7:14 am

Yes, but you have a troubling superiority complex.



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17 Feb 2010, 7:23 am

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Yes, but you have a troubling superiority complex.


For the last time, let's stay in topic, feel free to PM me if you have any questions why.



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17 Feb 2010, 7:47 am

M_p_furo wrote:
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No to teaming up or to doing a theory of ninja turtles?


This is only loosely related to ninja turtles. But I've been waiting to use this graph. :oops: :lol:

Sorry if it's stupid.

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WOW! That graph is so informative. :wtg: :lmao:



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17 Feb 2010, 7:52 am

For some reason, bdhkhsfgk reminds me of Donald Duck, and I cannot for the life of me figure out why...


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17 Feb 2010, 8:48 am

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For some reason, bdhkhsfgk reminds me of Donald Duck, and I cannot for the life of me figure out why...

They speak a comparable amount of gibberish (jibberish) when provoked?
Neither of them wears pants (trousers)? - How would you know this?
They'd both taste delicious when plucked, fried and covered in soy sauce?
When drawn by Disney, both exhibit anthropomorphic qualities their real-life counterparts do not possess?

It must be one of them.


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17 Feb 2010, 9:00 am

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Callista wrote:
For some reason, bdhkhsfgk reminds me of Donald Duck, and I cannot for the life of me figure out why...

They speak a comparable amount of gibberish (jibberish) when provoked?
Neither of them wears pants (trousers)? - How would you know this?
They'd both taste delicious when plucked, fried and covered in soy sauce?
When drawn by Disney, both exhibit anthropomorphic qualities their real-life counterparts do not possess?

It must be one of them.


I wear pants all the time.



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17 Feb 2010, 9:05 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Lecks wrote:
Callista wrote:
For some reason, bdhkhsfgk reminds me of Donald Duck, and I cannot for the life of me figure out why...

They speak a comparable amount of gibberish (jibberish) when provoked?
Neither of them wears pants (trousers)? - How would you know this?
They'd both taste delicious when plucked, fried and covered in soy sauce?
When drawn by Disney, both exhibit anthropomorphic qualities their real-life counterparts do not possess?

It must be one of them.


I wear pants all the time.

Prove it. Prove that you wear pants all the time.


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17 Feb 2010, 10:16 am

Lecks wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Lecks wrote:
Callista wrote:
For some reason, bdhkhsfgk reminds me of Donald Duck, and I cannot for the life of me figure out why...

They speak a comparable amount of gibberish (jibberish) when provoked?
Neither of them wears pants (trousers)? - How would you know this?
They'd both taste delicious when plucked, fried and covered in soy sauce?
When drawn by Disney, both exhibit anthropomorphic qualities their real-life counterparts do not possess?

It must be one of them.


I wear pants all the time.

Prove it. Prove that you wear pants all the time.


No one can wear pants all the time.



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17 Feb 2010, 11:10 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
No one can wear pants all the time.
You are contradicting yourself.
You have got to watch that.



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17 Feb 2010, 12:17 pm

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
I have Hans Asperger syndrome/"HAS".


Asperger's syndrome is autism. The term is an old-fashioned way of saying "high-functioning autism." It is in the process of being removed from the DSM because it is from an era when people thought severity of autism revealed how intelligent you are. It doesn't. My boyfriend's co-worker has a severely autistic son who is incapable of speaking. The doctors told him the boy was also ret*d and this was why he wasn't verbal. One day the co-worker was setting up his Wii console that he had just bought and couldn't figure out how to put it together. His son walked up, grabbed the controllers and started putting it together. He did it correctly. The man asked his son how he knew how to do it and the boy pointed to the manual. No one knew he could read. No one had tried to teach him yet.



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17 Feb 2010, 12:34 pm

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The man asked his son how he knew how to do it and the boy pointed to the manual.
He treid putting together a Wii without reading the manual first? That is very weird.