Why do ASPIES TAKE PRIDE in being Aspie

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10 Mar 2010, 2:11 pm

KevinLA wrote:
People need to feel good about themselves no matter what.

And it's my job to prevent that. :D



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10 Mar 2010, 4:48 pm

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That's how I often feel. Not just here, but in life. I'm surrounded by Autism, and while I don't wish I had it, there is always a feeling of being an outsider, not "in the know." Like you guys are all in some secret club and I'm just here to look after you (which is what I do with my family), but I can never really be included cause I "can never really understand", even though I've spent my whole life trying.

And then I come here, and here you all are ripping on us behind our backs, it's just a bit....I don't know...it sucks.

edited: FOR SPELLING AND MISSED WORD.

Can I just say that I think this almost makes you 'one of us'. It sounds like you feel the same way I feel out in the general public. It seems to me that you do understand what it is like to feel excluded.
At the end of the day, you aren't a part of an NT group, you are you. You are an individual. In the same way that I am an individual. I can't speak for anyone else here (obviously) but I promise I will never see you as just being here to look after us, or that there is an 'us and you' thing.
I don't hate NTs. It's only recently I had it confirmed I wasn't one myself. I do hate the way that a number of people have treated me, but they were individuals also.


could you fix your quote? you have me writing what was actually written by KoS.

thanks,
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I'm confused. On my computer it does say that KoS wrote it. Does it say you wrote it on your computer?


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10 Mar 2010, 5:06 pm

Sorry, I went ahead and fixed that a moment ago and didn't post a follow-up - that's my fault there.


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10 Mar 2010, 5:18 pm

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People need to feel good about themselves no matter what. It is a survival instinct.

Part of it is also a complete lack of awareness and understanding of the world.


Generally, feeling good about yourself is a good thing. But emotions such as remorse and guilt evolved for a reason; feeling bad about something gives motivation to change that thing.


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10 Mar 2010, 5:34 pm

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KoS... I find it sad that you seem to blame your brothers for the abuse you suffered at the hands of your father. They, and whether they had classic autism or AS, has nothing to do with the decisions your father made to behave in that fashion. It sickened me a bit to see you imply that they were responsible for what happened to you, I must admit.


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I'm not sure she was actually blaming them personally... but stressing the fact that others are not accepting of it, and it made things harder for all 3 of them, because they were obviously different, not just quirky... I don't get where she said anything wrong :S Just stated facts.

Now, if she was saying "they caused all of this for being autistic", then yes, that would be blame, but she said it was harder because others pinpointed them and tied her to them, so she wound up on the receiving end too. It's not her brothers' faults, but how people treated them in general that was the problem.

*never mind, I read on, but I still interpreted all of that differently from what you guys did. go figure, lol.


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10 Mar 2010, 5:54 pm

I don't really take pride in being... well, I can't really say Aspie, I'm technically HFA, so I don't take pride in being HFA, because I did nothing at all to contribute to having it.

I was born that way-end of story.

However, I do take pride in the things I can do with it. I enjoy talking with parents (accepting and understanding ones) of children with autism, and kind of being an advocate of sorts-even though I'm very limited because I get hung up on the fact I'm only one person with it... I cannot speak for anyone else. But, still, that gives me a feeling of accomplishment at times. I wouldn't be able to do that if I wasn't obsessed with analyzing myself and figuring out how I work vs. how everyone else seems to.


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10 Mar 2010, 6:05 pm

KevinLA wrote:
People need to feel good about themselves no matter what. It is a survival instinct.

Part of it is also a complete lack of awareness and understanding of the world.




QFT



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10 Mar 2010, 7:23 pm

Did I mention, I enjoy bullying Aspies because it's fun?



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10 Mar 2010, 7:33 pm

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Did I mention, I enjoy bullying Aspies because it's fun?

Yes you did. You also seem to enjoy being in the spotlight from the way you're fishing for responses.


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10 Mar 2010, 9:49 pm

Fickle_Pickle wrote:
Did I mention, I enjoy bullying Aspies because it's fun?



Are you serious? Do you really do that? :?



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11 Mar 2010, 1:04 am

like many of the repliers, A. i'm not sure if i really fall into the PRIDEFUL category and B. i dont see any problem with having pride in any part of yourself.

while i don't think that AS automatically equates to being strange there are plenty of people who are strange who take pride in things the rest of us would find weird. since pride is a very personal emotion can't see as it's anyone else's business.


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11 Mar 2010, 2:20 am

League_Girl wrote:
Fickle_Pickle wrote:
Did I mention, I enjoy bullying Aspies because it's fun?



Are you serious? Do you really do that? :?


some people even hurt other people's feelings for fun, too. so it shouldn't be such a stretch to think people enjoy bullying others.

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11 Mar 2010, 3:38 am

Yes I know that but I never understood why would an aspie pick on other apsies. I take that as white people picking on other white people, and black people picking on other black people. Maybe those apsies aren't picking on other aspies just because they are AS. But to target a certain group of your own kind, I don't understand it. That's what fickle pickle sounded like when she said it. Pick on them because they have AS.



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11 Mar 2010, 4:16 am

I take pride in being a cat, cats are awesome, and I am a perfectly normal cat.

I simply learned that when humans make statements like this, they're either furries, or Aspies... and I don't yiff.

I am proud I'm not a furry, so perhaps I am proud to be an Aspie, though I'd say the correct term is amused to find out that I am one.

Incidentally, bullying your peers is a sign of a deep self hatred, lashing out at what you see of yourself in others when you don't like what you see reflected back at you.


Sad, really, generally a sign of weakness in many other areas, but perhaps you'll go through puberty one day, young Mr. Fickle, and finally stop feeling like you have to lash out at the world in a typical angsty pre-teen fashion.


or not

I sought power to protect others, there isn't a sense of what is noble anymore, for most. If you are truly not weak and merely lashing out because you're able to do so, then you should congratulate yourself on being honestly evil hearted, I suppose the world may need villains, so we can know who the good guys are?


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I've haven't seen one thread that says anyhting like "What NTs have helped you along the way?" or "Have any NTs made your life better?" or even as simple as "Things you DO like about NTs"...


I give my girlfriend enormous credit for improving my worldview and getting rid of the bitterness I felt towards the world and it's occupants, she's made my life immeasurably better, and I love how easily amused I am by things NT's do all the time.

I like to watch people, it's something I do when I find a subject I don't understand, I study it intensely. They're fascinating, but baffling, and fun to debate with...



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11 Mar 2010, 9:33 am

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Yes I know that but I never understood why would an aspie pick on other apsies. Pick on them because they have AS.


Why would people put down people with mental retardation, for instance? Do they not seem human to those that use the term derogatorily? Why is it such a big deal to an Aspie to not be thought of as mentally ret*d? oh, noes, we have autism, not like those poor unfortunates that haven't the full wiring of their brains, our brains are just are wired differently. we are just socially ret*d, not mentally ret*d, as it it makes a big difference :roll: . Why are Aspies, as outcasts in society, too, so quick to distance ourselves from other societal outcasts to not be thought 'weird?'



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11 Mar 2010, 10:11 am

justMax wrote:
I take pride in being a cat, cats are awesome, and I am a perfectly normal cat.

I simply learned that when humans make statements like this, they're either furries, or Aspies... and I don't yiff.

I am proud I'm not a furry, so perhaps I am proud to be an Aspie, though I'd say the correct term is amused to find out that I am one.

Incidentally, bullying your peers is a sign of a deep self hatred, lashing out at what you see of yourself in others when you don't like what you see reflected back at you.


Sad, really, generally a sign of weakness in many other areas, but perhaps you'll go through puberty one day, young Mr. Fickle, and finally stop feeling like you have to lash out at the world in a typical angsty pre-teen fashion.



Actually it's MISS Fickle, and I'm already through with puberty. And yes it is a sign of self-hatred. Forgive me for actually showing shame.