Are autistic people more immature

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...The first paragraph of what you included in your post is me , ASS-P , but the rest is Meistersinger , whom I was replying to .
The line does show that , but not very clearly .
As I said , that " Stolen , hospital... " line started by me in The Haven goes into some detail about my immediate , current , situation .
Effectively speaking , I have no adult family , and haven't since my parents died .
I certainly think that contributes to my being homeless .









te="LilZebra"]

Your Mom is/was in denial.

In my case, I was helped by an extended family member (Mom's cousin/Aunt) who was a social worker.

This aunt always thought I was a "late bloomer", didn't focus (always telling me, verging on abuse).

But the last couple of years she was an advocate for me for getting on Disability and getting a "mental health worker" that I needed like 20 years ago.

This aunt is now in her mid-70s, and I wonder what will happen to me once she passes away. My two younger sisters, one 42 yr. old undiag. AS, the other is a 46 yr. old NT. AS sister I know won't be able to help me, and NT sister we've never really gotten along. One of the reasons I want to kill myself. I just want to restart into a new family with a new chance at things.

So for you, is there anyone in your immediate or extended family or perhaps an understanding and capable NT friend, neighbour who can help you navigate the mental health system?



I have a lifetime friend who I've known since Grade 7. He is an undiagnosed AS. Ever since I've known him his handwriting was awful. I thought it'd improve. I got a chance to live with him for 18 mos. His writing was the same squiggles as in 1978.

His house was the same, despite sitting on several hundreds of thousands of money from his grandfather's inheritance.

Original 1950 kitchen. Washroom not painted. Hole in washroom wall from 1993 not fixed (MS disabled Mom pulled on soap dish, bringing part of wall down).

Partly burned kitchen dining room table... Never replaced.

Tiles on the living room floor, cracked ages ago. Never replaced. So there were some tiles and others were just missing.

Family had changed their home tel. # sometime in the early 1990s, but still has one of those Northern Telecom/Western Electric Model 500 phones.

My friend Mike likes to use the word 'change'. I guess it's because he doesn't like change.

It was like a bloody time warp, back to the 1950s living with Mike.



You say you live near Baltimore MD. Don't they have excellent public transit out that way? Like rail transit, subways, trolleybuses, etc.?

Have you tried getting on Disability SSI? You need to see your family doctor who will arrang. In my case that was a several month long process after that. But it is worth it. A difference of $650 more.

I'm up here in Canada, and on regular 'SSI', what we call EIA (Employment and Income Assistance) I was getting no more than $550/month including Rent...you can't rent s**t for less than $550.

Now I'm getting $1100/month. Still not enough, and it doesn't allow me to save, but at least I'm not starving like in 2013.

If you're close enough to an urban area, how about bicycling? I don't drive, and I rely on bike in the Summer and public transit (we only have diesel buses here )? Bike maint. costs are about 10% that of a car.[/quote]

In college I had a teaching assistant (who was working on a doctorate in physics at Berkeley) whose handwriting looked like 1st grader's. Each letter was an inch high and no two looked the same. (He eventually got a mathematical word-processing system set up for which we students were thankful.) And, he wasn't the only one.

Supports? Even from gov't?

They can't really let a person be homeless, and mental health organizations...I was hooked up with the 'Canadian Mental Health Assoc.' will say "we'll help you find a place"...which just means "we'll help you look on Kijiji or Craigslist. Hey you're a smart guy and have done this before, you'll find something." I had already been forced out of my 1 bdrm. downtown apt. in May 2012 because they were renovating the block. Then I moved to a bad part of the city (Winnipeg's North End) for 4 days, then moved in with my abusive Dad for 5 weeks...he said near the end of the 5 weeks "I don't care if you're on the streets"...and basically blamed ME for being in that situation. He threw away some of my belongings like a teddy bear lamp I had since 1989 and a Nortel (durable) phone.

I almost ended up homeless over a 12 months ago, if it wasn't for my Aunt. I moved out to the burbs and I like the place I'm in but anyways...back to you...

Unless you're really intoxicated regularly or have some severe street drug addiction, they can't really let you become homeless. But I've almost experienced the same thing. Missed it by about 3 hours back in August 2014.

I think this shows the disregard "they" (the elite powerful) have for AS people. We're a threat to them because we want to make the world a better place and they want to hold onto their corrupt systems of power. That's what it's all about. So there's a sort of quiet genocide against AS people (hmmm where have we heard that one before...WW II?)

Michael Jackson said it right with the song 'They Don't (Really) Care About Us'.

So you don't really need to live in a homeless shelter...that's for the drunks and people like that. But at the same time, I don't know you.

Make sure you draw the curtains...

...I've been homeless (Or , occasionally , near-so or temporarily put up .) for a LONG time , I have absolutely no alchohol/drug problem at all...and I apparently couldn't get by Canadian Customs even to travel up there now (And I was conceived there - Montreal - , too ! Shame . ) due to my record .









te="LilZebra"]

Supports? Even from gov't?

They can't really let a person be homeless, and mental health organizations...I was hooked up with the 'Canadian Mental Health Assoc.' will say "we'll help you find a place"...which just means "we'll help you look on Kijiji or Craigslist. Hey you're a smart guy and have done this before, you'll find something." I had already been forced out of my 1 bdrm. downtown apt. in May 2012 because they were renovating the block. Then I moved to a bad part of the city (Winnipeg's North End) for 4 days, then moved in with my abusive Dad for 5 weeks...he said near the end of the 5 weeks "I don't care if you're on the streets"...and basically blamed ME for being in that situation. He threw away some of my belongings like a teddy bear lamp I had since 1989 and a Nortel (durable) phone.

I almost ended up homeless over a 12 months ago, if it wasn't for my Aunt. I moved out to the burbs and I like the place I'm in but anyways...back to you...

Unless you're really intoxicated regularly or have some severe street drug addiction, they can't really let you become homeless. But I've almost experienced the same thing. Missed it by about 3 hours back in August 2014.

I think this shows the disregard "they" (the elite powerful) have for AS people. We're a threat to them because we want to make the world a better place and they want to hold onto their corrupt systems of power. That's what it's all about. So there's a sort of quiet genocide against AS people (hmmm where have we heard that one before...WW II?)

Michael Jackson said it right with the song 'They Don't (Really) Care About Us'.

So you don't really need to live in a homeless shelter...that's for the drunks and people like that. But at the same time, I don't know you.[/quote]

I 'act' mature most of the time but internally, I am still very young. Before I found out I had AS, I used to wonder if other adults are childish inside and act it when they're by themselves.

I still like to throw knives, play with bows and arrows, swinging on swings, throwing stones, seeing how far I can flick my cigarette butts, etc. I tend to turn everything into a fun game. That's partly why I like my job. I get to 'play' on the computer all day.

Recently, I got on a train to travel to the next suburb just to swing on the swings and play in the play area. Mind you, it was around 10pm (and I had been drinking).

Mentally, I'm not that different from when I was young - I like that. It makes me different. And I like that too.

I often feel people sense something about me - It kind of feels like they can sense I'm very childlike inside and treat me special. It could be viewed by some as condescending but to me, it feels caring and I like it. It makes 'some' people just that little bit nicer to me than they treat other 'adults'!

I have AS and while I enjoy things like Doctor Who, My Little Pony and playing the Sims series of games, I also live alone, travel, my favorite rock band is Black Veil Brides (i got over my "boyband" phase years ago. I'm 26) i also produce videos for youtube and mod a couple of websites as well as a blog on tumblr. I also however, work with people of varying disabilities. This can be quite exhausting at the end of the day as my co workers don't always behave in the most professional manner (and some of them are older than me!) Not only that but when i try to get them to stay on task, they don't listen. I often see this as them being jealous of me since my boss and supervisors often praise me in front of them.

I would say, we are no more immature than most people. Maturity in an autistic person just looks different than it does in someone who is not autistic. So-called "neurotypicals" my age engage in behaviour that most people would consider immature. Just look at office politics in any organization and you will see plenty of behaviour that is more appropriate to 9-14 year old people than it is to 'mature' adults.

Lying, backstabbing, playing silly status-seeking games, social climbing, manipulating people, playing favorites, starting affairs with a married coworker and complaining via companywide email about "gossip" when it backfires... you get the picture. If I'm immature because I have never been remotely interested in any of those things, then the question is begging to be asked: who defines maturity? What does it actually mean?

Maturity means putting away your childish ways. Acting responsibly. Doing what you know you must do and not what you feel like doing.

I think you're right. I think the Autistic way of being immature is more childlike and the NT way of being immature is how you described. Kudos on summing up NT childish behavior. I don't think I could have thought of all that but I think you've summed it up very succinctly. I could never be like that either.