Do you feel like an outsider, even here at Wrong Planet?

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12 Sep 2010, 7:10 pm

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I've never felt shunned here, just unacknowledged sometimes and it seems that most feel that way one time or another. Like when I make a point and no one responds and then another member makes the same point and is that point is acknowledged. I don't command attention in real life either.
I've had a member or two PM me but never really got a dialogue off and running.
I'm kind of like another member here in my view on socializing. I don't want to have to come up with stuff to say. I just find it exhausting. It's not possible to have a friendship online where you can sit in companionable silence. :wink:


I feel a lot like that.

I think this thread was very worthwhile. It shows we all have a lot more in common. It's nice to have a thread that's not full of arguments, just people talking about their experience.


I notice and acknowledge both of you. I didn't know you felt that way.



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12 Sep 2010, 7:14 pm

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Moog wrote:
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I've never felt shunned here, just unacknowledged sometimes and it seems that most feel that way one time or another. Like when I make a point and no one responds and then another member makes the same point and is that point is acknowledged. I don't command attention in real life either.
I've had a member or two PM me but never really got a dialogue off and running.
I'm kind of like another member here in my view on socializing. I don't want to have to come up with stuff to say. I just find it exhausting. It's not possible to have a friendship online where you can sit in companionable silence. :wink:


I feel a lot like that.

I think this thread was very worthwhile. It shows we all have a lot more in common. It's nice to have a thread that's not full of arguments, just people talking about their experience.


I notice and acknowledge both of you. I didn't know you felt that way.

Well, thank you. :) You too. It makes you think maybe we all rely on non verbals a little more than we think, because it's totally absent online. No one can see that I respond to a post even if I choose not to reply with a comment because I have nothing worthwhile to add.



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13 Sep 2010, 3:36 am

Yes. Even here sometimes.



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13 Sep 2010, 3:58 am

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Definitely. It's partially because I've never been tested or diagnosed (due to lack of insurance & lack of income)-- I just have a very strong suspicion-- & I know a lot of people here don't like those on this site who haven't been diagnosed yet. I feel judged because of that by people & immediately disliked by some because of it. & also because I've never felt like I belonged anywhere, so this place is no different. Even if I were fortunate enough to get tested &/or diagnosed, I would still feel like an outsider.


I don't know that lack of a diagnosis is generally considered such a bad thing, here. I've not experienced any overt 'snubbing' or whatever from the diagnosed members. I suspect that your final conclusion is correct.


I've read posts by members here stating that they don't like how there are so many "self-diagnosed" people on this site. I've even seen a lot of topics on it throughout the entire time I've been on this site. Even though I'm not "self-diagnosed", I am undiagnosed but I believe that would put me in that same category in their minds.


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13 Sep 2010, 4:02 am

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Definitely. It's partially because I've never been tested or diagnosed (due to lack of insurance & lack of income)-- I just have a very strong suspicion-- & I know a lot of people here don't like those on this site who haven't been diagnosed yet. I feel judged because of that by people & immediately disliked by some because of it. & also because I've never felt like I belonged anywhere, so this place is no different. Even if I were fortunate enough to get tested &/or diagnosed, I would still feel like an outsider.


+1.

Also--nice quote. :D

Lol Thanks! :D I see you have the same one :lol:


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13 Sep 2010, 4:08 am

Yes, especially with all the people who look down on people because they don't have a girlfriend. (or boyfriend)

Like its so easy for them and they have a diagnosis so it can't be that hard for anyone else.



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13 Sep 2010, 4:14 am

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Yes, especially with all the people who look down on people because they don't have a girlfriend. (or boyfriend)

Like its so easy for them and they have a diagnosis so it can't be that hard for anyone else.


They do that here? I'm glad I never realized that. I'm 28 years old & have never even been on a date, as odd as I know that sounds. I've even mentioned it in posts before, but I don't think I've ever received negative responses from it.


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13 Sep 2010, 4:31 am

Yes. Sometimes on WP I've had great responses to my posts, and then for a while I feel OK, but I only have to be "ignored" for a day or two before I start to feel unnoticed again. Of course there's a negative bias in the way I see it - just because nobody responds directly to a post doesn't mean that it's been ignored.....but without proof, it's easy for low self-esteem to barge in and conclude that the whole exercise is a failure. Then of course there's the intangibility of the whole online social game, full of people who live hundreds of miles away, people I'll probably never see. I don't feel like an outsider in the sense of thinking that everybody else is getting some wonderful closeness that they won't give to me, I tend to imagine that most people here feel much the same way as I do.

In "real life" it's much the same though, despite the physical closeness and all that. I only feel right when there's been lots of evidence that I'm doing well socially - just an hour or two of anything less and I feel like I've been dragged back to my teenage years when I was making a complete mess of social stuff. I guess I judge my social performance very harshly, as if it were an exam in which I fail myself whenever I don't get 11 out of 10. It makes no difference that I know how biased my judgement is - I can only correct the bias on an intellectual level.....the feelings remain the same. I suppose society just isn't geared up to providing the constant reassurance I'd need to really feel accepted, and I'm not geared up to asking for it.



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13 Sep 2010, 7:38 am

Today, I do feel like an outsider. People are talking about abortions, body image and how being on the spectrum makes them sad. I'm also aware of two things. WP is a democracy, so everybody is intitled to their own opinions, and WP is my only support system, apart from my clubhouse. That's why I keep coming back. I also feel more HFA, than AS coming here. There's nothing wrong with that.


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13 Sep 2010, 7:53 am

Happy music.....

Thank you for acknowlaging my post....ya sometimes I feel that folks get stuck on a specific poster, and other times I feel that I am not radical enough to be acknowleged. I can be very radical in my views from time to time, but as my mom's exboyfriend said, "She knows the score, but often does not say"


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13 Sep 2010, 8:15 am

I feel like that most of the time here. I don't get into the random chatter much, I don't play the games section, nor ever chat, it's just not my style I guess. I also think part of my problem is that, even though I am diagnosed, most of my life I lived as they say, "NT." I had to to survive, it wasn't a choice.

I don't seem to identify with some members difficulties with dating, some social behavior, etc. It's funny how you find out you have something that explains why you were the way you were, out of the loops from most everyone else, then you find a site that has people who deal with many of the same issues, and you still feel outside the loop. :?


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13 Sep 2010, 8:16 am

No. People here at WP have been very accepting of me. What few people I know in real life who aren't related to me are also very accepting of me. I don't know what it is about me that people find endearing; I'm just generally thought of as being "cute" or "sweet:.



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13 Sep 2010, 10:04 am

I'm an outsider everywhere. I've never really felt 100% part of any place I go to. Maybe it's a bit better here since people are overall nicer, but I still never really feel like a part of things.


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13 Sep 2010, 11:18 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
Today, I do feel like an outsider. People are talking about abortions, body image and how being on the spectrum makes them sad. I'm also aware of two things. WP is a democracy, so everybody is intitled to their own opinions, and WP is my only support system, apart from my clubhouse. That's why I keep coming back. I also feel more HFA, than AS coming here. There's nothing wrong with that.


I don't think you're much of an outsider here; you're one of the most popular members.


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13 Sep 2010, 11:24 am

So, the majority of active members feel like outsiders? LOL, us Aspies are funny.

BTW, spooky13, I like that avatar. "It's easy to stand with the crowd. It takes courage to stand alone." Very true.



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13 Sep 2010, 12:02 pm

Delirium wrote:
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Today, I do feel like an outsider. People are talking about abortions, body image and how being on the spectrum makes them sad. I'm also aware of two things. WP is a democracy, so everybody is intitled to their own opinions, and WP is my only support system, apart from my clubhouse. That's why I keep coming back. I also feel more HFA, than AS coming here. There's nothing wrong with that.


I don't think you're much of an outsider here; you're one of the most popular members.

Me too. :lol: *sniggers*