Asperger's and lying ...

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I can lie. I have thought since childhood that I probably could trick a lie detector. As a child I lied often, and I made up whole complicated stories, either just for fun or to mask that I had done something that I was not allowed to. Very often I constructed stories with my little sister, planning everything that should be said, and telling her what to say and how to behave. I had kind of a secret life apart from everybody else.

At some point I had troubles remembering what I had told to different persons. Between 6 and 14 it was at worst, but exept for a few times where my parents found out of things, mostly because my sister wasnt a good acter, I got away with it.

Now I dont usually lie, but I know for sure that Im good at it, so I dont understand why it should be that uncommon for aspies.

Everyone lies. People who say they don't lie are lying.

I lie. I did lie. When I was bullied, I lied to my family for a good year about friends I didn't have. When they did find out I lied, they felt stupid because they couldn't tell I had lied the whole time. Believe me I felt guilty. But they made me always aware of how annoyed they were about me whining and complaining and crying about being bullied. So to make them happy, I made up a lot of lies. And not one of them could tell if I was lying.

Even now, when I'm around the dinner table and telling them about work or something my dad always goes:

"You're not lying to me?"

Me, "No,"

"You're really good at making up stories,"

Me, "I'm not lying,"

"Good"

Yeah this though you can't lie if you're completely mute.

Yeah you can. You can still write and type. And use sign language.

Let's say you are gay and never tell anyone. You pretend to be straight, pretend to get crushes on the opposite gender, and talk about yourself as a straight person. How is that not lying to the people you know?

Lying seems to be common with children. They don't want to be in trouble. They do thing when they think they can get away with it. They challenge their boundries. Then people with the Autism spectrum tend to lie a lot more.
I don't think I was ever diagnosed with anything ever. But it seems very apparent I have ADD. I always thought I was just quirky with Attention deficit disorder issues. I learned a week ago my son has PDD. He was diagnosed 15 years ago. I'm upset because this affects my knowledge of my own son, how to deal with him, and learning about myself things that would of helped knowing a very long time ago. The issues I have coping with work, relationships and people in general.
During my son's visit with me I learned that he's very defensive, evasive, his routines are almost rainman like in their precision. He's a compulsive hand washer, germaphobe, he lies about many things, talks behind your back, has a insatiable craving for sweets and cheese to where he will leave a spoon in the bag of it. He doesn't like to do anything other than play video games, read manga, or watch manga on tv. Confesses he likes to spend time, but yet his actions suggests that he doesn't. He eats popsicles in a way that I find unsettling, has very few manners. He cannot stand bugs, and hates warm weather, humidity. He will do just about anything to avoid any source of discomfort. He has effeminent qualities, likes girls but he's way to socially awkward to have a real desire to speak to them. And he's in complete denial of being anything but perfectly normal and considers his quirks as acessories that make him who he is. And when he doesn't get his way or gets to do specifically what he wants and when. He will pace, wash his hands over and over, leave lights on, wander and he won't stay put as if uncomfortable in his own skin. His lying really bothers me!
I confess that I have lied in the past, and I suppose I'm overly honest for the most part. Times I justify lying is when I know for a fact I'm being lied to, or to protect myself from retaliation when you know someone is off their goard.

I'm the same way. It annoys me to no end when someone claims they aren't lying because they never mentioned anything untrue, yet they neglect to include a significant portion of the facts. That IS lying. They call it "lying by omission" for a reason. Even "little white lies" aren't so little at all. With that said, everyone lies. Those who claim they do not are not being fully honest with themselves. Even if it's saying the service at a restaurant was "alright" when in fact it was atrocious is a lie.

i have read no previous entry's in this thread, but i will say that i have no capability of remembering what is not true, and if i tried to lie, then i would not remember the content of the lie when investigated after the event. i think it is best to say what is true, and it is a lot easier as well because it does not require imagination of falsified events .
i have imagination, but i can not apply it to lies.

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I really can't lie, and I get horribly upset when I find out someone has lied to me.

Unfortunately, I always think people are telling the truth because that's what I do.

I'm a notorious liar. I love lying. I often lie even if I don't have to.

I can lie easily (not now, just when needed).

I've not heard that one before. In Tony Attwood's The Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome it says: “First, due to impaired or delayed ToM abilities, the person with Asperger’s syndrome may not realize that the other person is likely to be more offended by the lie than by any apparent misdemeanour. Second, he or she may consider that a lie can be a way of avoiding consequences, or a quick solution to a social problem. What the person might not acknowledge is that lying can also be a way of maintaining self-esteem should he or she have an arrogant self-image, whereby the making of mistakes is unthinkable”.

I can be a very good liar. When I was a child I had a really hard time with lying. I would feel guilty if I did tell a lie, and would almost always come clean. My older siblings did not appreciate this trait, and I attained the title of "the NARC" by my oldest sister. By the time I hit high school I had learned to lie to avoid trouble, and did it quite often.

I remember telling white lies at a very young age. I remember when I was about 5 I was eating mashed potato, but knew there was ice-cream in the freezer and really wanted that. My mum said to eat some more of my mashed potato, then I can have some ice-cream. But when she went out of the room, I got the spoon and ran it over the mashed potato so that it looked like a lot of it had been eaten. Then when my mum came back in she actually believed that I had eaten some more of it, and smiled and said ''good girl'', then took the plate, and gave me some ice-cream. I was quite surprised, but didn't say anything. I remember doing lots of other little white lies like that. So I have never been bad at lying.

I remember when I was in my last year of school, my ''friends'' were being nasty to me, which was making my school life hell. But I didn't want to tell my mum any of it, although I knew I should but I didn't want it to worry her, because she was in the middle of going through a divorce with my dad and so had issues of her own. So, to save my mum from worrying about something else, I just had to keep this quiet and sort it out myself in school. My mum did find out in the end, but that was when I was coming close to leaving school, and I had also made up with one of the friends.