do people think you're "stupid"?

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Generally not, just odd, strange, dreamy etc.

I think it's actually problematic to seem intelligent but to have difficulties that don't have an obvious cause.

I get eccentric, unusual, unique and original a lot. Most people don't question my intelligence, only my arrogance (because sharing your knowledge is some sort of social faux pas especially if you are a woman)

I just said I know in real time that whatever is said can potentially be a lie. I pointed out an example in which I realized in real time that someone was lying, and I pointed out that even when I cannot process a situation fast enough to identify lies specifically, I am still aware that what I am hearing are potential lies.



This has nothing to do with knowing pretense, it has to do with missing nuance and multiple meanings.



You dodged my question:

Is a difference that makes no difference, actually a difference? You seem to be splitting hairs so that the process is only relevant if it's done the same way NTs do it, and ignoring the fact that it can be done.



Okay? I do not see how this relates. I am aware that if I can see something, others can as well.



No, I see his immediate reaction is a literal response, but then he realized what he was actually being asked. I do this a lot myself, but this is not "could not realize this." This is "delayed realization," but is still in real time as it happens during the conversation.

And again, that it may not happen in real time is not due to social immaturity, but cognitive processing.

Also, selection bias.

I did answer it that in practice it does not.

The reason he took it literally because he could not see things from the others man perspective that the other man could see that he was drinking beer so that was certainly not being asked. He realized it late and not in real time, NTs get it in a moment.Regarding the link I would say that I am very logical in my thinking.

People think that I have a bad memory.

Then we have nothing further to discuss, I guess.

Also: Logical thinking is not immune to flaws or incorrect data.

In practice it does not but please bear in mind that the mechanism that we use requires us to keep us guard up all the time. We don't understand situations passively unlike neurptypicals. Also, we will never be as good as NTs are age wise.

As I pretty much mentioned in another thread some jerkass boy in 7th grade constantly called me stupid and it stuck with me pretty much for life.

I guess the ex who constantly called me a ret*d after we broke up fits into that same category too.

Reasonable people don't give give that kind of stuff time of day, doesn't mean we don't notice.

Same here.

I get people speaking to me like I am a child or stupid. I think it's because of the way I look (I often get told I look about 19 years old when in fact I'm 28!! !). I am often keen to point this out to people who think they can talk down to me (particularly if I'm older than they are) and to either address me as I deserve to be addressed or to keep quiet. I am obvioulsy less polite than this, but I get the message across pretty well I think, because I seldom get it from the same person twice.

Well, this is a different type of "catch/notice". Sure, you may read it, but did the first two posters catch the "emotional associations" with that kind of language? Reasonable neurotypical people would be more likely to call "Troll." or react in some way that's similarly emotionally mirrored (Which the latest poster did), which it appears the first two didn't.

Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe they understood the emotional associations but ignored it in their straight-faced logical responses.

Anyway, that thread was a way of learning more about aspergers and how someone with aspergers might respond to neurotypical incitations. From that observation, I was hoping I could more accurately deduce the likelihood that I have aspergers, because it is still an open question.

An interesting topic, madbirdgirl. (I like your username, by the way. Just thought I would say that.)

Anyhow, I used to be considered and termed as such, however, this situation had been present before I was even assessed, and then diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome. Back in my early schooling years, I had found it increasingly difficult to focus, and I experienced short, but intermittent zone-outs. I was very forgetful, and ''absent-minded''.


After the event in which I was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome, many of which seemed to misinterpret this as a 'mental handicap' and resorted to treating me as if I was way younger compared to my current age, this includes several teachers. The truth is, I am not in any form mentally handicapped. I had told numerous individuals that exact statement, but it had just seemed to go into one ear and out of the other with them, unfortunately. Since then, I have ceased my attempts in convincing others that my condition was not a mental handicap, but a social handicap. (I actually possess an above average IQ, as confirmed via PhD-certified standardized paper-based testing, and this further elaborates and supports my statement.) However, I am assuming this misconception derives from the fact that I am socially awkward somewhat, and gives the false impression that alongside being socially below average, that my cognitive abilities are, as well.

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I can't say for certain. Most people think I'm, at the same time, intelligent, weird and gullible. Intelligent because of my above average learning skills and largely logical thinking. Weird because of my lack of social skills and below average motor coordination. Gullible because I can believe some really outlandish claims if you say it in a believable way (for example, last month I checked under my desk because my teacher told me I would find a Jason Voorhees costume there - it's a long story ).

My own opinion depends on my current mood. Generally, I think I'm an average guy with some potential.

Perhaps not but I do think so myself though.

Oh yes, all the time!

1.) One of the assistant coaches of my high school football team, I run into him a few years after high school, I was working part-time during the summer at a home depot as a loading assistant,basically helping people carry their purchased hardware onto their cars, we small talk, and he says "so how's NCC(Norwalk Community College)?" I tell him I went to Westfield State University in Massachusetts, and he's shocked, that I made it to a real college.
2.) I was out in the back of the home depot,in the warehouse, loading pull carts and push carts into the back for safe keeping, when one of my supervisors, seeing that I wasn't loading them efficiently, said " c'mon, your supposed to be smart" in a obviously and barely hidden sarcastic tone. Basically I hated working at the home depot because everyone treated me like this big goon that did work for other people.
3.)My mom and dad constantly saying I don't have any common sense and calling me an idiot.
4.) One middle school spanish teacher, when I went to make up a quiz during lunch hour, and I didn't do good, proceeded to make fun of my voice and imply I was ret*d.
5.) Countless classmates throughout much of my school years, calling me ret*d and slow and what not.

I now realise, that most dumb people, judge a person's intelligence not by their actions or intellect, but by their apearance. If you have low confidence or seem depressed, have a slow wit, are slow to anger, or don't have a take charge personality,dumb people will think your stupid. (And if your not white, a man, or good-looking, all bets are off) But if your smug,domineering,bossy, and arrogant,dumb people will think your smart(even though they wouldn't know intellect if it bit them in the junk.