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TeaEarlGreyHot
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19 Apr 2011, 6:55 pm

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You're not refering to me, are you?


Doubt it. The OP called me a fascist bully in another thread, then created this one.


Way to be obvious.

People throw around words like "fascist" too easily.
I doubt half of the people who use it even know what it means. :roll:


No kidding.


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19 Apr 2011, 6:56 pm

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Look, Surfer. This is a forum for autistics. Being bad at observing social trends is one of our defining features. Could you please provide a few examples of this sort of thing, for purposes of evaluation? 'Cause I don't see it.


You've only been here just over a week, you'll notice which groups are which eventually.


lol. I've been on and off this site for several years and I STILL haven't figured out which groups are which. Perhaps each time I come on I don't linger long enough to find out.


It just so happens to be something I'm interested in, the way group dynamics and hierarchies work so I find them EVERYWHERE. And I've basically figured out how all of this site works, or at least how it works with the members that post often enough.


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19 Apr 2011, 6:58 pm

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Fascism ('fæʃɪzəm/) is a radical, authoritarian nationalist political ideology.[1][2] Fascists advocate the creation of a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization and mechanization of a nation and the creation of an ideal "new man" to form a governing elite through indoctrination, physical education, and family policy including eugenics.


What does this have anything to do with the OP? Is this some sort of analogy or figurative language? Please, enlighten me, I am completely unaware of anything the OP mentioned.


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19 Apr 2011, 7:03 pm

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Fascism ('fæʃɪzəm/) is a radical, authoritarian nationalist political ideology.[1][2] Fascists advocate the creation of a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization and mechanization of a nation and the creation of an ideal "new man" to form a governing elite through indoctrination, physical education, and family policy including eugenics.


What does this have anything to do with the OP? Is this some sort of analogy or figurative language? Please, enlighten me, I am completely unaware of anything the OP mentioned.


The OP is just mad that he was told in another thread it's rude to diagnose others.


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19 Apr 2011, 7:04 pm

sunshower wrote:
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Look, Surfer. This is a forum for autistics. Being bad at observing social trends is one of our defining features. Could you please provide a few examples of this sort of thing, for purposes of evaluation? 'Cause I don't see it.


You've only been here just over a week, you'll notice which groups are which eventually.


lol. I've been on and off this site for several years and I STILL haven't figured out which groups are which. Perhaps each time I come on I don't linger long enough to find out.

Well I've been here a few months, and I'm completely oblivious. Like I said, if anyone's talking about me, they're going to have to tell me, because I won't get it from vague criticisms. (Not that I think I would be considered among the elite anywhere. :lol: )



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19 Apr 2011, 7:17 pm

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So, WP is not the BS free zone it appears?


Well I thought you would notice that upon registering to this site you are smeared with it all over your face as part of the welcome package.

This site has had its fair share of bollocks over the last 5+ years of my time on here. Rest assured, it is nowhere near the depths it has managed to reach in the past. It goes through phases of being lame, but then you know what? You can switch off your computer and go outside, its quite the novelty once you figure out how to do that occasionally :P


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19 Apr 2011, 8:19 pm

Zen wrote:
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Look, Surfer. This is a forum for autistics. Being bad at observing social trends is one of our defining features. Could you please provide a few examples of this sort of thing, for purposes of evaluation? 'Cause I don't see it.


You've only been here just over a week, you'll notice which groups are which eventually.


lol. I've been on and off this site for several years and I STILL haven't figured out which groups are which. Perhaps each time I come on I don't linger long enough to find out.

Well I've been here a few months, and I'm completely oblivious. Like I said, if anyone's talking about me, they're going to have to tell me, because I won't get it from vague criticisms. (Not that I think I would be considered among the elite anywhere. :lol: )


Yeah, I think it best just not to worry about it and go about your daily posting as per normal haha.


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19 Apr 2011, 8:32 pm

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You're not refering to me, are you?


No way, never ever heard you be nasty to another. I think your a conflict avoiding, peace loving rabbit like me



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19 Apr 2011, 8:37 pm

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It just so happens to be something I'm interested in, the way group dynamics and hierarchies work so I find them EVERYWHERE. And I've basically figured out how all of this site works, or at least how it works with the members that post often enough.

OK, now I'm curious if I'm part of some WP hierarchy.

Would you be interested in making a graph?


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19 Apr 2011, 8:44 pm

I don't really understand how outspoken posters = Fascism. Most of the very outspoken people are not all of the same leaning. If there was Fascism, they would all be arguing the same jargon. Alas, that is not the case. How many people here are even wearing brown shirts? :wink:

Also I'm with Lecks. Make us a graph, Ms MONKEY! :)


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19 Apr 2011, 8:49 pm

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It just so happens to be something I'm interested in, the way group dynamics and hierarchies work so I find them EVERYWHERE. And I've basically figured out how all of this site works, or at least how it works with the members that post often enough.

What happens is people bond over common opinions and form an elite group. They search out others who share their group-think or philosophy and exclude those who do not. That's group dynamics in a nutshell. It reminds me of cults, only not as extreme. Cults are an extreme form of this dynamic. Cult members are not allowed to disagree. Instead of being shunned, they are not allowed to leave. The cult leader attempts to control every aspect of their lives.
You see in group dynamics, a lot of criticizing others and shunning. This is how the group forms a cohesive bond, establishing the terms of their existence by defining what they are not and avoiding who embodies it. Really, it's just a bonding ritual. It helps them feel closer.



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19 Apr 2011, 8:50 pm

Surfman wrote:
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You're not refering to me, are you?


No way, never ever heard you be nasty to another. I think your a conflict avoiding, peace loving rabbit like me


Can I assume since you responded to this and nothing I said that I am correct?


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19 Apr 2011, 9:05 pm

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So, WP is not the BS free zone it appears?


Well I thought you would notice that upon registering to this site you are smeared with it all over your face as part of the welcome package.

This site has had its fair share of bollocks over the last 5+ years of my time on here. Rest assured, it is nowhere near the depths it has managed to reach in the past. It goes through phases of being lame, but then you know what? You can switch off your computer and go outside, its quite the novelty once you figure out how to do that occasionally :P


I remember that guy who ripped everyone off re cancer girlfriend, when I first came here, some of the most regular regulars fernando, spazzergasm and that dude with Hannibal in his avatar were all over the postings.

They up and left all at once. I think I said to one, he/she was 'bored and destructive' as he/she would use clever and subtle put downs throughout his rhetoric.

There was a lot of passive aggressive double speak commentary then.

Then there was a few extremely negative thread starters who used subject titles like

'How often do you think of killing yourself?'

Regarding this thread, my issue is with sycophantic cyber friends ganging up on those outside of their regular circle of back slappers.

The impetus to start this thread, was not only my previous thread re VHFA, but seeing others too with a valid argument, or youngsters with less experience, being treated unfairly by dominant regulars trying to score points of others mistakes, eccentricities or unusual and different views.

I ONLY CONSIDER THE PROBLEM TO BE WITH A VERY TINY NUMBER

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE

If you are wondering.... 'is she talking about me', then no! These people are well aware of what they do, and no inference to others is intended.

There are bullys on WP



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19 Apr 2011, 9:11 pm

So rather than address the person you called a bully, you're just going to make a general statement and say "you know who you are"?

Now who's being passive aggressive?


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19 Apr 2011, 9:18 pm

Someone has been discussing me openly in front of others then demands I answer their questions!

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19 Apr 2011, 9:25 pm

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Hey I thought I was the only one that used that word. I'm not mad, more surprised.

People here can be very opinionated and it is a symptom to fail to see the opinions in others being different from you. I have to refrain to start arguing and try to just reply in the most mild manner possible. 'Well some people...now I'm saying only some with autism might be like this. You might not be like that but others with the same condition may...' Yeah it's exhausting but I try my best to not insult people.
Actually even non-autistic people can become argumentative when you don't agree with them but here it is in a more extreme form.

Then some days when the oppositional me kicks in I may just say something offensive. But I feel absolutely horrible afterwards and hide under my bed for a few days and come back to the forum.


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