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17 May 2011, 10:12 pm

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I do hear stories all the time, but are they verifiable?.


I can verify that a chap in my hometown did deliberately put his fingers into a electric blade at a sawmill to claim compensation. His rather gruesome act of money grabbing actually benefited future sawmill workers as the mill installed hand guards (grills) to prevent people putting their fingers near an operating blade. However he really should be arrested for fraud.

There is also a famous case of a 80 yr old Australian claiming war benefits and disability pension for 30 yrs following the Vietnam War. It eventually surfaced he was using a dead man's identity. Members of the Australian Returned Services League were so incensed they wanted him to get the death penalty (we of course don't have capital punishment in Australia).

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When the US was trying to cut back on welfare in the 90s, there were a lot of outright lies about how people were supposedly fraudulently claiming welfare, so I tend to take these claims with a grain of salt.


Yes you are right, it's a popular topic in media because it stirs up quite a bit of trouble. So yes people legitimately on disability benefits get a bad name, this is really unfortunate.

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The other thing is that being too disabled too work doesn't mean too disabled to enjoy one's self.


This is a common myth that people on disability are living the high life on tax payers expense. I think being unable to leave home is like prison. I knew a lady working as a secretary to a University Vice Chancellor who was in his office when a group of university student protesters barged into her office and proceeded to destroy files and splash paint, using crowbars to destroy furniture. All the while she cowered in a corner not knowing if she would be attacked. The students ran away and the later poor lady developed PTSD and extreme social phobia. Despite not being phsycially assaulted the trauma was suffiicent for her never to leave her home. After 10 years she finally (with counselling) got her old job back but it didn't last more than a few weeks when it became apparent she was going through the same mental anguish and could not focus.



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05 Jul 2014, 5:27 pm

1. I definitely, and extremely, am not NT. Is Asperger's just defined as what it is not?
2. I have been officially diagnosed with Aspergers.
3. From what I have read from my diagnosers, they do not understand me at all and have me all wrong.
4. From what I read about Aspergers, I am just as different from them as I am from NTs.
5. I am not a "high functioning" version of anything. My condition is severe and very far from NTs.
6. I am definitely not anything currently on the DSM. I must be put somewhere on the DSM to be in "treatment". My condition definitely is extremely "pervasive" and inborn and stable. I had no speech delay (HFA), I am not intellectually ret*d (classic autism), and I am not in any way "between" autistic and NT (PDD-nos) Therefore, I am Asperger by default.



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07 Jul 2014, 12:02 am

However being a computer nerd, having an introverted personality, being shy, or having social anxiety certainly do not rule out aspergers, not sure how often these things actually get mistaken for autism.....I myself have not observed that too terribly much. Also there are people who aren't autistic or neurotypical...

Even if you are diagnosed there is no way to know for sure if you have aspergers, technically speaking since there is no blood test and no brain scan or anything that can say without a doubt whether someone has it or not, also though I do not think it always takes a diagnoses to have a pretty good idea of if you have autism or not I knew it was the case with me before I was able to get the official diagnoses.

aspergers is not a seperate disorder from autism...and no idea where you got 1 in 300 people are diagnosed with aspergers, especially when 1 in 100 has autism and aspergers is autism so yeah.


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07 Jul 2014, 12:05 am

nevermind, this is from 2011....why it was revived from the dead is beyond me, had I known that I wouldn't have posted on it after 3 years... :?


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07 Jul 2014, 12:36 am

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In my view/opinion you either have Aspergers Syndrome or do not have Aspergers Syndrome.

Doctor Spock from Star Trek is logical and rational character and shows no emotions/feelings at all towards his fellow Star Trek crew. Doctor Spock is the pin up boy of the typical person with Aspergers Syndrome.

Aspergers are logical and rational people who can not show feelings, express emotions or show empathy towards other people. If you can not show remorse or empathy towards others and you are a compulsive manipulative liar: you could have Aspergers Syndrome.


Look up Psychopath, that more describes psychopathy then Aspergers^

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Aspergers are self centred it is like they are the only person in the world. Mr Bean the character played by Rowan Atkinson has Aspergers Syndrome. Mr Bean rarely talk and is self centred and does not show empathy towards other people.


Acting or feeling as if one is the only person in the world is NOT related to Aspergers. It however could be related with LFA but then of course those with LFA don't have any of those other characteristics. Again looks like Psychopathy is what you are describing to me.


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You do not talk, self centred and immature. You possibly have Aspergers Syndrome.


Again, those with Aspergers DO talk as well as most others on the spectrum. Some at the other end LFA in particular and some further up the scale may not have verbal skills. As for immaturity, usually it is social immaturity in Aspergers but in other aspects they are ahead of the curve on maturity.

It seems to me you have mixed up Aspergers with Psychopathy to some extent. However all that you are saying doesn't quite fit Psychopathy either, it is however closer to the description you give then Aspergers. I think you need to do a bit more research. I don't claim to be an expert and I looked some of this up just to be sure. I have always believed and been taught it is NOT a crime to admit you don't know something. It is however a crime to profess knowing and refusing to research. Hell I think most of us here on WP spend much of our time reading and researching to hopefully better understand ourselves either for managing our actions, or at least accepting ourselves and understanding why we are the way we are. (If that makes any sense)



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07 Jul 2014, 1:38 am

I was diagnosed when I was a kid, and when I began to research it online in my late teens, I pretty much confirmed that my diagnosis was correct. I didn't self-diagnose myself, in fact, on the contrary from my early-mid teens I went through a "denial" period, and I merely thought that I was suffering from bipolar disorder (I had a cousin who was diagnosed with it, I was obsessed with Kurt Cobain at the time, and I somehow thought that having anxiety and depression together equalled bipolar, even though this isn't really the case).