Do female aspies have an easier life in society?
In a general answer? NO
Though it is easier for a majority of girls with ASD when young because we are not expected to be agile and earlier talking often smooths us past being pinpointed. Females can slip thru the cracks much faster.
Odd behaviors in a girl really count against you.
Many aspie traits are DANGEROUS when we reach an age of sexual maturity. I bet stats would put a big "V" for victim target on our foreheads for at least 80% of us.
Like avoiding predatory partners isn't hard enough for people how to have a regular understanding of social norms!
If we are even a little aware enough to attempt social "mainstreaming", we will have low self-esteem. Likely to have a much much smaller circle of true friends than the average girl.
And expectations are doubled! Already modern females are expected to bring home the bacon, fry it in the pan, yet take of the man.
Add some kids!
Though all is equal in custody court as far as "rights" to children, it is not equal during the timeline of most marriages. We (the fem gen) are still expected to be the primary caregivers and give up all sense of self. top take the "hit " for the "hometeam".
That is fine for me who had children as one of my "special interests". I was able to navigate. My children are well adjusted, and like me for myself as well as for my care of them.
But what about the majority of ASD moms?
Dads can get away with having less connection, standoffishness, touch issues.. crap most any issue but pedophilia or outright beating is handwaved. Moms... EVERYTHING is under the microscope. What is ignored in a father will get an instant "bad mother" label!
All is good with family support. Hostile in-laws? Life is hell. And pressured stress is likely to make a person with lower function/flexibilty make a truly harmful mistake. certainly, lead to a divorce unless the spouse is top-shelf material.
My view is that it is ultimately harder for women. Because the number of expectations is even greater in many more aspects (appearance/behavior/demeanor/abilities), the stress is there whether or not she reacts visibly to it
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I thought so. You need to talk a lot to friends who are NTs once it comes to language to learn to hear this.
Not really. There is a difference in intonation. Simple sample: "That's great!"
It may express joy, ironie or sarcasm, not only depending on the context but also in the way it is spoken.
With honest joy in it it expresses joy. If joking with it it's ironic. With a sound of being dishonest or being disappointed it's sarcastic. For getting it always right you need to hear the differences and to get the nonverbal emotions in language.
Also, it is Sylvia-- I love Sylvia Plath...
Sorry, my mistake.
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I am as I am. Life has to be an adventure!
Not really. There is a difference in intonation. Simple sample: "That's great!"
It may express joy, ironie or sarcasm, not only depending on the context but also in the way it is spoken.
With honest joy in it it expresses joy. If joking with it it's ironic. With a sound of being dishonest or being disappointed it's sarcastic. For getting it always right you need to hear the differences and to get the nonverbal emotions in language.
My boyfriend, who is super ADHD, is actually incredibly sarcastic and I have gotten better with sarcasm since I started dating him; however, he did think it was really funny when I would believe everything that he would say and when he would come up with more elaborate sarcastic lies, like changing his age to thirty five, I would become incredibly confused and I would begin panicking, feeling like everything that I had previously believed was unstable.
Often, when people are sarcastic, or at least when my boyfriend is sarcastic, they do have a happy sounding voice. My sister would often use sarcasm with me, but her sarcasm would be really mean and I think it is funny when people describe sarcastic people as "cut throat" as the word means "to tear flesh", which is actually incredibly accurate. I love to see how language leaves its trace...
I recently had an issue in my Advanced Fiction class during a workshop when I was trying to explain how the actual dialogue in another student's short story did not represent the dialogue tag, which said something along the lines of: Mr. Pierce always had a way of speaking to make you feel that all work was a privilege and that anyone should be eternally grateful for having been bestowed work by him... Yet, the dialogue had not said this at all... And the teacher was confused with my upset, but then another student explained to me that it was sarcasm... I felt embarrassed at first, but then another student, who I believe is autistic, in the class started going on and on about how he could not understand how it took the character twenty four minutes to get from his house to Farm Road Route, as the character, being in a commuter story, instrumented time stamps, and the student was frustrated that he could not picture the map of this world. I felt that we were kindred spirits.
Also, I want to thank you for your advice on how I can better understand nonverbal social behavior. Thank you, Quite an Extreme!
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"All by myself I am a huge camellia
glowing and coming and going, flush on flush."
-Sylvia Plath, Fever 103
Also, people expect more out of women. We're ''supposed to'' style our hair, wear make-up, wear stylish clothes, keep up with trends in fashion, carry handbags over our shoulder, like clothes shopping, pluck our eyebrows, shave our legs, give off feminine body language, etc. And if we don't do at least one of these things, other women can criticise, call you ''weird'' or ''a woman who doesn't bother to make an effort with herself'' and you even get mistaken for a lesbian if you're not careful. Unless you're confident and not sensitive to this, it's mighty hard to go through life with other people putting you down just because of a few ''typical'' female things you don't do. Not saying all women do every single one of these things, but most women do at least one of these things.
Men don't seem to get ridiculed as much as women do. Where I come from, there seems to be double standards for men and women. Men can act drunk in the day and nobody takes any notice, but if a women does it, they get ridiculed. And when I was 15 I was obsessed with pubs and I kept saying to my mum, ''when I'm 18 I want to go in a pub and sit and buy myself some drinks'', and she was like, ''you can't just go in there and sit on your own - people will take the piss'', and I said, ''but I've seen men sitting in pubs on their own and nobody takes the piss out of them'', and my mum said, ''well, men seem to do it, but you would look funny.''
And it's not only that - there's lots of other things aswell. Like if a man gets told off by someone in authority, nobody really thinks anything, but if a woman gets told off by someone in authority, people tend to stare at the woman for ages and comment.
It's as though women have to be perfect all the time.
Women aren't the only gender that had dealt with tough expectations in society.
Yeah, after all men and women think differently.
I believe it is some cognitive bias.
It depends how you look at it.
Whether or not it is harder to be a female Aspie, I have no idea. I am a male Aspie.
It is without doubt that more female Aspies get partners and children.
Thus from one perspective it is easier being female; i.e. from the perspective that the point of life is to reproduce and carry on one's lineage; from that point of view female Aspies are more successful than male Aspies.
I don't know what it's like to bleed once a month or however often a period happens. So would I want to be female? I don't know, maybe not. I certainly think though that being an Aspie male is more often than not accompanied by social ostracism.
thank you.
So, can we still discuss general rules of trends or can we not? Because generalities are just that, general rules that doesn't mean there are never certain cases that dispute the general average rule.
thank you.
So, can we still discuss general rules of trends or can we not? Because generalities are just that, general rules that doesn't mean there are never certain cases that dispute the general average rule.
Look at the dates those comments were posted. I don't think that person is a commenter here anymore, doesn't look like they've been here for years--so you probably shouldn't expect an answer.
thank you.
So, can we still discuss general rules of trends or can we not? Because generalities are just that, general rules that doesn't mean there are never certain cases that dispute the general average rule.
Look at the dates those comments were posted. I don't think that person is a commenter here anymore, doesn't look like they've been here for years--so you probably shouldn't expect an answer.
I've been corrected then.
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