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Sethno
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03 Apr 2013, 5:41 pm

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This is why I think people should not decide a head of time that they have autism and have the attitude that the diagnostician is supposed to confirm their suspicions. I just see someone with that attitude being automatically dismissed. Some of the people here don't sound the least bit truly autistic to me either. They have some social awkwardness/anxiety and a few quirks... but they've held demanding careers, are married have kids, have actual friends etc. For me being autistic means being separate from all that and being completely unable to attain any of it. Outside of close family, I have no real connection to anyone in any way whatsoever. I've only been able to operate on a minimal level in life. I have a simplistic job. I live alone in a studio apartment. Outside of family, No one ever comes to my door. No one ever calls me. I'm by myself 90% of the time. And I like it that way. That's how it's always been. Simple and tranquil. I pretty much need to be left to myself most of the time. If I'm not at home alone, I'm wandering around by myself. That's been my adult life for the last 33 years. So when I hear someone with a full life, career, wife, kids, friends etc. talking about being autistic... well, I don't quite get it.

To me autism hasn't been about someone having difficulties living a standard normal life. I'm incapable of living a standard normal life.


*crowns you autism king*


Problem is, Muff, my being diagnosed wasn't something I pursued. My therapist and doctor opened the door without any input from me (until it'd been brought up).

Having heard all I said, Brian is still talking about me looking to have 'the diagnostician confirm my suspicions' (and finds the whole situation questionable for that reason) when all along it was me who'd kept my mouth shut. It was my therapist and doctor who wanted it looked into. (Tho' I'll admit after all that time, I took advantage of the chance to be diagnosed, finally.)

As for questioning people having more going on in their life than he does, Brian ignores the fact he's not the only one on the spectrum, everyone on it is in different places, and even Alex, who founded this site and forum, is a pretty busy guy.

Is Brian next going to question Alex's being autistic?

Please be careful about supporting a view that, in a lot of ways, is exactly the same kind of limited, almost "Rain Man" mentality shown by the guy who evaluated me.



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03 Apr 2013, 9:10 pm

I have spent my whole life trying to be relevant, to find someone who would in fact miss me should I go missing for any length of time, someone other than my so-called nasty adoptive parents who were obligated to care not from love but because of legal reasons. I wished for this every single day of my life until I had my first real serious relationship in my 30's. I did everything in my power to learn what I needed to, in order to be able to present myself in an acceptable way so I had half a chance. It didn't come easy, as I still sometimes piss people off without understanding what I've done wrong until after the fact. Luckily my husband is very understanding and forgiving especially when frictions happen between me and his family. But every day is a learning process and I have to understand that I cannot get complacent otherwise I have the potential to alienate those who are special to me and find myself back in that lonely, dark place. Yes, I'm lucky I possess enough intellect to recognize patterns and learn from them, but it was an extremely long and treacherous road getting here that I am lucky to have survived. As it was explained to me, Asperger's is a difference in brain processing which affects different people in different ways. Learning social cues and behaviors is like learning a foreign language: it is not impossible and can be done, but it is not "natural". For a long time the "foreigner" or "student" must think in their native language first and then translate to the other. They may eventually find themselves thinking in the foreign language, but will still run into learning curves or other "complex traditions" of that culture that can take much effort to figure out. For example, as a toddler, my PDD-NOS son would not imitate me, no matter how much I tried to model behaviors or activities for him. In comparison, NT children thrive on and enjoy imitating their caregivers. Spectrum individuals need to be specifically taught many, if not most, things that NTs pick up easily and take for granted. This doesn't mean that those on the spectrum can't or never will learn these skills or dynamics (which is why Early Intervention is so crucial) but the gaps have the probability of becoming wider and more difficult the longer they are not addressed.



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04 Apr 2013, 7:50 pm

Sethno wrote:
muff wrote:
briankelley wrote:
This is why I think people should not decide a head of time that they have autism and have the attitude that the diagnostician is supposed to confirm their suspicions. I just see someone with that attitude being automatically dismissed. Some of the people here don't sound the least bit truly autistic to me either. They have some social awkwardness/anxiety and a few quirks... but they've held demanding careers, are married have kids, have actual friends etc. For me being autistic means being separate from all that and being completely unable to attain any of it. Outside of close family, I have no real connection to anyone in any way whatsoever. I've only been able to operate on a minimal level in life. I have a simplistic job. I live alone in a studio apartment. Outside of family, No one ever comes to my door. No one ever calls me. I'm by myself 90% of the time. And I like it that way. That's how it's always been. Simple and tranquil. I pretty much need to be left to myself most of the time. If I'm not at home alone, I'm wandering around by myself. That's been my adult life for the last 33 years. So when I hear someone with a full life, career, wife, kids, friends etc. talking about being autistic... well, I don't quite get it.

To me autism hasn't been about someone having difficulties living a standard normal life. I'm incapable of living a standard normal life.


*crowns you autism king*


Problem is, Muff, my being diagnosed wasn't something I pursued. My therapist and doctor opened the door without any input from me (until it'd been brought up).

Having heard all I said, Brian is still talking about me looking to have 'the diagnostician confirm my suspicions' (and finds the whole situation questionable for that reason) when all along it was me who'd kept my mouth shut. It was my therapist and doctor who wanted it looked into. (Tho' I'll admit after all that time, I took advantage of the chance to be diagnosed, finally.)

As for questioning people having more going on in their life than he does, Brian ignores the fact he's not the only one on the spectrum, everyone on it is in different places, and even Alex, who founded this site and forum, is a pretty busy guy.

Is Brian next going to question Alex's being autistic?

Please be careful about supporting a view that, in a lot of ways, is exactly the same kind of limited, almost "Rain Man" mentality shown by the guy who evaluated me.


im sorry. i was being sarcastic with my 'king of autism' comment. having now stated that i am able to at times use sarcasm will probably lead to an attack on my autism status by his majesty.



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05 Apr 2013, 10:35 am

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Weed has never hurt anyone, go look it up.


I would disagree:

http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthin ... nabis.aspx

Mental health problems

There is growing evidence that people with serious mental illness, including depression and psychosis, are more likely to use cannabis or have used it for long periods of time in the past. Regular use of the drug has appeared to double the risk of developing a psychotic episode or long-term schizophrenia. However, does cannabis cause depression and schizophrenia or do people with these disorders use it as a medication?

Over the past few years, research has strongly suggested that there is a clear link between early cannabis use and later mental health problems in those with a genetic vulnerability - and that there is a particular issue with the use of cannabis by adolescents.

Depression

Schizophrenia
Three major studies followed large numbers of people over several years, and showed that those people who use cannabis have a higher than average risk of developing schizophrenia. If you start smoking it before the age of 15, you are 4 times more likely to develop a psychotic disorder by the time you are 26. They found no evidence of self-medication. It seemed that, the more cannabis someone used, the more likely they were to develop symptoms.

Physical health problems

The main risk to physical health from cannabis is probably from the tobacco that is is often smoked with.

Is there such a thing as ‘cannabis psychosis’?

Recent research in Denmark suggests that yes, there is. It is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year.
However, they also found that:
Three quarters had a different psychotic disorder diagnosed within the next year.
Nearly half still had a psychotic disorder 3 years later.
So, it also seems probable that nearly half of those diagnosed as having cannabis psychosis are actually showing the first signs of a more long-lasting psychotic disorder, such as schizophrenia. It may be this group of people who are particularly vulnerable to the effects of cannabis, and so should probably avoid it in the future.

Is cannabis addictive?

For regular, long-term users:

Compulsive use


It sounds like propaganda put out by the UK or AU same thing they own eachother.

I will agree with the possibly it could incite psychiatric breaks in people who already have the predisposition of genetics. i've heard it said before however i don't know of any cases; only with harder drugs.

In the USA many states have LEGALIZED it for medical and recreational uses. This is so that we save money chasing the big bad criminals who are raping and killing and making meth instead of busting pot smokers.

Your B. criteria for marijuana sounds odd. Most people get the "munchies" and they eat and thus gain weight do to pot smoking.
Many use it to help them with sleep.
I never met anyone with an addiction to cannabis. Those who may be "addicted" are addictive personalities to begin with. They also seem to be addicted to scratch off lottery tickets...

When i was young and smoked the reefer i would quit on a whim for a year here some months there. It was never an addiction. It never caused withdrawal.
The reason i stopped was i was not getting enough oxygen to my brain as i have bad respiratory/lungs to begin with and i need to quit smoking.

Most people in the US don't mix pot with tobacco to smoke it, they smoke the pot seperately in a bowl or roll a joint or something.
It's harmless for the most part unless it messes with your oxygen levels (like me) or actually triggers a psychotic break. Or someone with an addictive personality gets ahold of it.

Like i mentioned, here in the USA i guess we have a different opinion as many states will give you a warning, at the most a traffic ticket fine.
Growing and selling Marijuana for medical purposes is legal as well in some states. Also personal possession is legal in some states.

The govt would rather pick its battles with the drug war that didn't work wisely and leave non violent potheads alone.
We have bigger problem over here with meth and pills and opiates they need to bust people on.



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16 Apr 2013, 11:26 am

muff wrote:
Sethno wrote:
muff wrote:
briankelley wrote:
This is why I think people should not decide a head of time that they have autism and have the attitude that the diagnostician is supposed to confirm their suspicions. I just see someone with that attitude being automatically dismissed. Some of the people here don't sound the least bit truly autistic to me either. They have some social awkwardness/anxiety and a few quirks... but they've held demanding careers, are married have kids, have actual friends etc. For me being autistic means being separate from all that and being completely unable to attain any of it. Outside of close family, I have no real connection to anyone in any way whatsoever. I've only been able to operate on a minimal level in life. I have a simplistic job. I live alone in a studio apartment. Outside of family, No one ever comes to my door. No one ever calls me. I'm by myself 90% of the time. And I like it that way. That's how it's always been. Simple and tranquil. I pretty much need to be left to myself most of the time. If I'm not at home alone, I'm wandering around by myself. That's been my adult life for the last 33 years. So when I hear someone with a full life, career, wife, kids, friends etc. talking about being autistic... well, I don't quite get it.

To me autism hasn't been about someone having difficulties living a standard normal life. I'm incapable of living a standard normal life.


*crowns you autism king*


Problem is, Muff, my being diagnosed wasn't something I pursued. My therapist and doctor opened the door without any input from me (until it'd been brought up).

Having heard all I said, Brian is still talking about me looking to have 'the diagnostician confirm my suspicions' (and finds the whole situation questionable for that reason) when all along it was me who'd kept my mouth shut. It was my therapist and doctor who wanted it looked into. (Tho' I'll admit after all that time, I took advantage of the chance to be diagnosed, finally.)

As for questioning people having more going on in their life than he does, Brian ignores the fact he's not the only one on the spectrum, everyone on it is in different places, and even Alex, who founded this site and forum, is a pretty busy guy.

Is Brian next going to question Alex's being autistic?

Please be careful about supporting a view that, in a lot of ways, is exactly the same kind of limited, almost "Rain Man" mentality shown by the guy who evaluated me.


im sorry. i was being sarcastic with my 'king of autism' comment. having now stated that i am able to at times use sarcasm will probably lead to an attack on my autism status by his majesty.



Well, if it means anything, I didn't pick it up as sarcasm, so maybe you don't do it right? Or maybe I don't always pick up on sarcasm?


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10 Jun 2013, 10:54 pm

Mine said he didn't like labelling people and beat around the bush about what was exactly wrong with me. I never found out what dxes I had until my vocational rehab caseworker showed me the evaluation.


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