Callista wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Callista wrote:
Uhm, guys, mental illness doesn't cause violence. Statistically--little or no connection. So, even if we were to completely eradicate mental illness (somehow...) there would still be shootings.
The only exception is that people with drug addictions tend to be more likely to engage in violent acts. But we don't know whether that's because they have an addiction--it could just be that people who are more impulsive or hot-headed are also the sort more vulnerable to drug addiction.
Violence in people with mental illness tends to be much more uncomplicated than the planning it takes to carry out a mass shooting. They'll hit people or use whatever weapon happens to be nearby, like stabbing somebody with a fork.
Yeah, mental illness does raise the risk of self-directed violence, such as self-injury and suicide. But it seems to be unrelated to violence against other people. Yeah, mentally ill people commit violent acts, but not at any greater rate than mentally healthy people.
Can we maybe stop dragging that old rotting fallacy out of its grave yet again? If you wanna talk about a particular person's mental illness and his particular violent acts, okay. But you can't make blanket statements that crazy people are violent, because that quite simply isn't true.
In life there's your opinion and other peoples' opinions
your opinion is yours and other peoples' is theirs
you are not 'the authority' on anything
Of course not. But I have statistics to back up my claims, and so I can make a stronger claim to truth than someone who is depending on a single anecdote like Lanza's case.
To clarify, I'm not saying that what I say is correct because I'm the one saying it. I don't even have my bachelor's degree. The research I'm referring to (which you can find via Google, and more indepth in a journal database like PsycInfo) was, however, conducted by people who do have their degrees and are qualified to do it. So I feel I am safe in saying that this is more than opinion--that, in fact, mental illness and violence have very little, if any, direct connection.
I never even said there was a direct link between mental illness and violence - you assumed I had
Some people with mental health problems will become violent hence it's important to give them the support they need
How many sane school shootings have there been??
Do you think anyone who commits a violent killing is completely in their right mind?
I don't
I think they've lost touch with reality
it's not the fact that mentally ill people might turn violent it's that when a person decides to kill another person they are often
mentally ill, whether they were previously receiving help for their illness or not
you are stigmatising people who are mentally ill as some kind of permanent separate category - no, all people have the capacity to become mentally ill and also to become mentally healthy again - it's a back and forth process not a one-way one
11 Apr 2013, 11:03 am
for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.
oh , no, I c,c,c caaaaaaare!
