Advice: stop the video games and choose useful obssessions
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I disagree that it is laziness to to have fun instead of doing something difficult, if one only does fun things and never bothers with more difficult yet necessary un-fun things then things aren't going to work out too well. But people cannot be expected to always be doing difficult things...it is healthy to have some fun in life or so it would seem.
There are lots of fun activities that I'm often too lazy to do, and video games are one of them. Seriously, it takes EFFORT to play video games, and to me, the definition of laziness is avoiding doing anything that takes any effort.
Much of the time I end up not bothering with games because I am too lazy for it...lol, the main game I play currently is League of Legends I do have a PS3 I got last year, but have been too lazy to get games for it so far.
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I disagree that it is laziness to to have fun instead of doing something difficult, if one only does fun things and never bothers with more difficult yet necessary un-fun things then things aren't going to work out too well. But people cannot be expected to always be doing difficult things...it is healthy to have some fun in life or so it would seem.
There are lots of fun activities that I'm often too lazy to do, and video games are one of them. Seriously, it takes EFFORT to play video games, and to me, the definition of laziness is avoiding doing anything that takes any effort.
Much of the time I end up not bothering with games because I am too lazy for it...lol, the main game I play currently is League of Legends I do have a PS3 I got last year, but have been too lazy to get games for it so far.
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one lol.
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I disagree that it is laziness to to have fun instead of doing something difficult, if one only does fun things and never bothers with more difficult yet necessary un-fun things then things aren't going to work out too well. But people cannot be expected to always be doing difficult things...it is healthy to have some fun in life or so it would seem.
I don't think fun and challenge are mutually exclusive. Some people play video games for the challenge and learn/study for fun (me). Also, there are people who find work difficult because it's often repetitive and un-challenging.
I think its fun to listen to music, but it certainly does not take effort, but there certainly are activities that are fun and challenging, video games being one of them.
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The reason people, including myself, single out video games and "geek culture" for scrutiny is because of the effect it has on people.
Other groups of people with certain hobbies don't get repulsively obsessive the way aspie gamers and anime fans do. It is not just a silly stereotype, it is true.
I think that in many ways, the "geek culture" (anime fans especially) is its own worst enemy. I've known people who refuse to watch anime not because of the anime itself, but because of the stereotype of people who watch it.
I have hardly ever met anime fans or gamers who are just "sort of" into their hobby. Whereas, NT people who go to watch sports games and movies often do that stuff every once in a while, and are open to it and into it even if they aren't obsessive with it.
Video games and anime are okay interests but they do not need to be so time consuming.
The people who study abroad in Europe, to say, study Renaissance Italian art have a very strong interest in it, but from what I've seen, they don't refuse to do other things because they're too caught up in their interest.
Isn't it sort of an autism trait to spend a lot of time on our special interests/obsessions?...not to mention since a lot of people on the spectrum may not socialize as often or need more alone time those can be a way to occupy time, that normal people perhaps might be spending socializing. I mean seems like you're sort of telling autistic people to stop being autistic and having traits of the disorder.
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We don't get to choose our obsessions. (I often wonder why so many people on the spectrum are obsessed with similar things though and I may start a thread on this; that's a separate issue though).
My obsession has always been with the genres of Science Fiction, Fantasy and Horror in various mediums. Teachers, parents and peers have derided me a lot for it, although my grades and work never suffered because of it. It would have been far more profitable for me to be obsessed with sports and financial investments but I don't think I ever had this option.
I didn't choose my special passion but I have managed to "push" my interest in directions that go beyond just passively soaking up the latest TV episodes and movies: I do digital and traditional art, model and prop making and creative writing. I also seek out the work of challenging authors and film-makers. rather than being content with mainstream pap.
I go to Geek Conventions where I meet a lot of other people also doing creative things with their hobby, often attempting to monetise it. Many of them are in relationships and must be in reasonably well-paid jobs to be able to throw around the amount of money they do. Just because someone likes Geek Culture doesn't mean that they are a mindless, passive consumer of it.
I thought we were beginning to leave the "worthless nerd" stereotype behind. Let's not start it up again.
The reason people, including myself, single out video games and "geek culture" for scrutiny is because of the effect it has on people.
Other groups of people with certain hobbies don't get repulsively obsessive the way aspie gamers and anime fans do. It is not just a silly stereotype, it is true.
I think that in many ways, the "geek culture" (anime fans especially) is its own worst enemy. I've known people who refuse to watch anime not because of the anime itself, but because of the stereotype of people who watch it.
I have hardly ever met anime fans or gamers who are just "sort of" into their hobby. Whereas, NT people who go to watch sports games and movies often do that stuff every once in a while, and are open to it and into it even if they aren't obsessive with it.
Video games and anime are okay interests but they do not need to be so time consuming.
The people who study abroad in Europe, to say, study Renaissance Italian art have a very strong interest in it, but from what I've seen, they don't refuse to do other things because they're too caught up in their interest.
This.
There's a reason there's a stereotype of gamers being basement dwelling losers, as harsh as that sounds.
Yes there is a reason, and it's called prejudice.
Strange that the last two posters assume that I mean people should go drink alcohol instead of playing video games. Where did that come from?
I mean people ought to have a variety of interests. Do some exercise, learn something, work towards some goal or another, work a job, have a bit of a social life with friends and family, eat healthy food etc vs. the stereotypical basement dwelling video gamer.
Are you serious? I cannot believe how someone can be so judgmental on these forums. Again, it's a harmless interest and you're going off on people for enjoying something YOU personally don't like. I don't go personally insulting you for your pseudo-science beliefs.
Ever think some people may not have the luxury of having a job or a social life due to other personality disorders? Or that people do not like having more than a couple or a few special interests? I'll have you know I spend a good amount of time with my parents and dog and still play games
You know what.....forget it, I'm done interacting with you ever again on the forums.
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^ Strange accusation; I never said one personal attack against you.
It's people who pretty much exclusively spend their time playing video games that fit this stereotype, not people who do other things with their time and just happen to play some video games.
Also, just fyi, whenever I see "gamer" listed on a dating profile.. it's a huge turnoff. Especially if they don't list ANY other interests and only a bunch of game titles. There's about zero chance I'd ever date someone that spends all of their time playing video games and has no interest in the outside world, being active, nature, work, a bit of socializing, learning other things, doing other things etc. I mention this part not to be rude or insulting, but as any FYI of my reaction to gamers as I'm sure there are gamers on here who don't realize just how big of "social suicide" their obsession can be.
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So what if it's "social suicide"? Not all of us like being social
Quit being so goddamn judgmental. Seriously, of all places, you would think people on this forum would understand others having different special interests and not ridicule them, but apparently I'm wrong.
What I do with my time is my business, what you do with your time is your business. I don't judge you for it, so don't judge people for it either. End of story.
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Something you're not seeming to grasp is that the world at large is a social place and we all have to fit into it somehow. Others' perceptions of us are critical to our success in life. Perceptions, feedback, reactions etc - they're all important if you ever want to be an included member of society in terms of work, play, love etc. My perceptions of gamers are likely similar to many others' & I'm just being honest and transparent about them. Like others here who used to be addicted to video games have said.. dropping the obsession has improved their lives. There are reasons for that. They do other things, and others perceive them as "better," than the stereotypical basement dwelling gamer and thus their social standing and interactions improve, likely along with their work & love lives. Just saying.. whether you like it or not, that, IMO, is the harsh reality of it all.
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Do you consider the fact that some of us cannot work or have a relationship (or have no interest in one)?
How I choose to fit into the world is MY business, not yours. No one else here is telling people to drop their interest just because they would "fit in" with the world. Sorry if I don't want to be a neurotypical like you seem to want to.
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How I choose to fit into the world is MY business, not yours. No one else here is telling people to drop their interest just because they would "fit in" with the world. Sorry if I don't want to be a neurotypical like you seem to want to.
Of course I consider that. I was once like that. I've had some all consuming obsessive interests, but never video games.
What I consider more than anything is improvement. Continuously striving to better myself and my situation. Health, social abilities, fitness, wealth etc. I've come a LONG way from the antisocial person that was incapable of working a few years ago and know I can still do a lot better than I am today. That's the part that is a bit odd to me.. that people accept that they cannot work or have relationships vs. figure out what course of action to take to improve themselves in order to be & have more out of themselves and life.
I don't particularly want to be NT, but I acknowledge that being more NT-ish lets me get along better with the world. I quite like my AS traits that make me a better problem solver/engineer type & what some might describe as savant abilities that I can utilize to my advantage in life/finances etc. I don't necessarily want to be NT, but I certainly don't want to be an antisocial basement dweller of any kind who can't interact with the outside world or place nice with others.
I realize that's ME and my priorities. I'm just sharing them. YMMV.
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