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14 Jul 2005, 10:56 am

*giggles* You are right: I read it and thought the guy was an incarnation of a wally animal with a long neck! :oops:

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14 Jul 2005, 11:14 am

PhoenixKitten wrote:

*giggles* You are right: I read it and thought the guy was an incarnation of a wally animal with a long neck! :oops:

That would be rather amusing. But on a serious note:
We must save the Panchin Lama otherwise there will be no one to succeed the Dalai Lama once he is deceased.

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14 Jul 2005, 7:44 pm

Ok now if I can just find my Tardis I'll be off to change all that.

Or what I could do is take one of the earlier incarnations of the Dalai Lama and bring him back to the present so he dies here. This leaves a bit of a Quantum Mechanical dilemma for the beaurocrats in charge of the universe who must makes sure that the Dalai Lama's successive reincarnations run smoothly.

If his old self dies here, how can he be reincarnated in the past, eh?

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14 Jul 2005, 10:43 pm

Panchin Lama? Someone feed me knowledge here?

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15 Jul 2005, 12:33 am

PhoenixKitten wrote:

Panchin Lama? Someone feed me knowledge here?

One of the three god-kings in Tibet. There is the Panchin Lama, the Dalai Lama and someother lama. Maybe Llama Lama. :lol:

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15 Jul 2005, 12:42 am

Llama llama DUCK! I was once a treehouse, I lived in a cake...

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15 Jul 2005, 12:47 am

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Llama llama DUCK! I was once a treehouse, I lived in a cake...

And you lived happily ever after with a man called Cat-Man-Dude.

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15 Jul 2005, 12:17 pm

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Jesus Christ is most likely Aspergers with ADHD.
Some of the Apostles were NT's with a mix of sociopaths and NPD
Paul was most likely NPD

Jesus the Nazerene in all likelihood did not have Asperger's syndrome. Diagnosing attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (DSM-IV-TR) or a hyperkinetic disorder (ICD-10) on people known cursively from posthumous literature is irresponsible, especially when the time and culture were so very different. Many of the signs of ADHD come to clinical attention because of an environment peculiar to modern Western life. Psychopathy and narcissistic personality disorder, which overlap significantly, are tricky to pinpoint on people whose life has become the object of worship; evidence of actual life events is scarce. Also, in the DSM-IV-TR ICD-10, pervasive developmental disorders take precedence over attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder or hyperkinetic disorders.

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In culture:
ADD and Asperger's are the types that keep things dynamic
Sociopaths (Bad term: they often are VERY social) are the structuralists
NPDers are the leaders that spread the word and expect obedience
NT's are the followers

In order for a religion to take off you need:
A Radical starter (ADHD and Asperger's is a VERY radical combo) (Jesus, James, Philip)
A Leader to carry the word (NPD) (Paul, Peter, John,)
A Structured person to design stricture (Matthew, Andrew, John)
and lots of followers (NT's)

IMHO

Many religions form from years of custom (e.g., ancestor worship and shamanism). Cults of personality and religions with set mores come from on high; that is, people with a set vision of how society should function and a sense of duty use their charisma and oratory skills to establish a new branch of religion. Founding and leading a religion, therefore, would take obsessive-compulsive, narcissistic, and antisocial personality traits, if not the full personality disorders, which may be detractive to followers. A psychopath or narcissist who starts a cult to satisfy his or her own vanity or to con people out of their possessions probably will not develop the a large and reasonable following needed to sustain and grow a religion. After all, more reasonable men and women would find a psychopath's spiritual advice rather hollow and ignore it. The possibility does exist, though, that other people will build a stronger theological framework on the charismatic psychopath or narcissist's inspiration.

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P.S. If you want to see what NPD and Sociopaths look like...watch Televangelists

That is very much true! It's hard to comprehend that some people are so taken in by the words of televangelists.

By the way, the psychological constructs of psychopathy and narcissism overlap considerably. It seems the major difference between the two is that a psychopath has most likely committed a crime or acted with particular aggression whereas a narcissist has not necessarily done so. In both an unrealistically heightened sense of self-worth exists as do frequent use of deception to achieve one's own ends. Both are lackinng in empathy, but a narcissist may have some loyalty to a belief, cause, or person. A psychopath does not even have this. Psychopathy is probably just a more severe degree of narcissism.

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15 Jul 2005, 1:09 pm

That is an interesting thought. It will be quite amusing if they discovered taht many politicians suffered from NPD.

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15 Jul 2005, 9:20 pm

*giggles* Ahh I just LOVE the way something so stupid can be taken so seriously! That's humour in itself!

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02 Aug 2005, 8:02 am

PhoenixKitten wrote:

*giggles* Ahh I just LOVE the way something so stupid can be taken so seriously! That's humour in itself!

True. Oh well. That is life.

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02 Aug 2005, 11:28 am

I still believe we have just cause to note psychopathic personality traits in Jesus the Nazerene's mythological personality. Cooke and Mitchie (2001) removed Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R) items relating to actual behavior rather than general traits (i.e., early behavioral problems, juvenile delinquency, poor behavioral control, many short-term marital relationships, promiscuous sexual behavior, revocation of conditional release, and criminal versatility) to analyze three factors underlying psychopathy. I have underlined the PCL-R items of this refactoring that may have applied to the historical Jesus the Nazerene as well as the Jesus Christ of the Christian Bible.

Arrogant/Deceitful Interpersonal Style
Glibness/superficial charm (e.g., parables, charismatic speaking style)
Grandiose sense of self-worth (e.g., son of God, miracle worker)
Pathological lying
Conning/manipulative (e.g., tells Judas Iscariot to go do what he must do)
Deficient Affective Experience
Lack of remorse or guilt
Shallow affect
Callous/lack of empathy
Failure to accept responsibility for own actions (e.g., even when he lay dying on his cross, he placed the plame on the Roman persecutors who, "know not what they do" instead of accepting that his rallying against both Roman authority and Herod led to his demise)

Impulsive/Irresponsible Behavioral Style
Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
Parasitic lifestyle (e.g., took other people's loaves of bread and fish to make more "miraculously")
Lack of realistic, long-term goals (e.g., hoped for a better life for all in a heavenly kingdom)
Impulsivity
Irresponsibility (never had a job except as a preacher)

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02 Aug 2005, 11:53 am

NeantHuman: I hope you don't mind, but I copied and pasted your writing (with the appropriate attribution to you of course), sent it to my friends, and they thought it was hilarious!

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