Do you think that virginia Tech killer Cho Seu was an Aspie?

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That mostly determined at the state level of government and varies from state to state.

Here is a quote about Texas:



http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/41/17/6

To those of you who say most aspies are gregarius and talkative a lot of the time for some of us this is true and for others it is not. I have an Aspie friend who barely talks and only gives one word answers if he does talk. WE may never know what was wrong with Cho but for him to have taken the action he did there had to be something wrong.

Interesting... Sounds like Mark Hacking.

Well, the South Korean government has apologized 3 times now, and there is actually a Newsweek article on MSN about Korean-Americans fearing a backlash.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18178194/site/newsweek/

From what I've heard so far, Cho was NEVER DX'd. I think by now the news networks would have found that tidbit, and gone on and on about whatever the DX WOULD have been. He was sullen, sexually frustrated, angry, and full of psychotic violent fantasies.

(By the way, we'll never have another Edgar Allen Poe. If a kid these days tried to write anything like his material, they'd haul 'em away.)

Yeah, I actually responded to this speculation on the News&Current Event forum.

We may be known for being socially withdrawn, but social withdrawl can be a symptom of so many mental illnesses (e.g. depression, schizophrenia, any number of personality disorders). So the fact that people are calling him a loner doesn't impress me one way or another for the whole ASpie thing. Truth be told, I think that many ASpies are awkward, but they don't go out of their way to be hurtful, inconsiderate, or scare people like this guy did. I've had roommates, and while I may have been standoffish and not made lasting friendships, I think that most of my roommates probably know a little more about me than just my name. I've never been asked to leave a college class because I scared people. Group projects were sort of a pain, but I got through them without snapping.

Given everything that we know about this guy, the fact that being a "loner" is an AS/Autie stereotype doesn't concern me. I'm a loner, but I am not mean spirted like this guy was.

Actually, it's come out that he was committed for being suicidal after his two stalking threats. A magistrate signed the commitment papers back in 2005, according to MSNBC. It doesn't say for how long, but involuntary commitments are typically done for 72 hours, at which time threat-level is reassessed.



You know, my husband once wrote a bomb threat letter as a practical joke.

I once participated in an excersise in a creative writing class where we were supposed to write a story for 5 minutes, and then pass it to the next person. I actually started my story with a really detailed description of someone drinking heavily and climbing the stairs of a college's bell tower while carrying a rifle. My purpose in doing that was to see how the person I passed my story to would deal with it - not because I am macabre or homicidal. It was just me being an a**hole and playing with the next person (who was actually a friend of mine and expected something pretty outrageous, since that is my sense of humor). I was actually talking to my husband about how we'd probably be sent to jail and/or expelled if we did something like this nowadays.

I think he probably had social anxiety and depression if anything.. I highly doubt he was an aspie.

anyway,

You guys seriously do not want this guy to be an Aspie. I swear to god everyone here will become the scum of the earth if he was.

Even if he really does have AS, the last thing we need is another murderer to deepen the killer sterotype.

Apparently he sent a video of himself to NBC... if it is ever made public I think it will be easier for us to tell if he is AS (does he have awkward body language, gestures, gaze, voice modulation etc...). The still from the video doesn't look very AS.



mikh07: he was NEVER diagnosed so it will always be speculation if he was AS. So far he sounds more antisocial/ sociopath/ possibly psychotic to me. I don't think a person with Asperger's would be able to write plays very well (not saying it could never happen, but it seems unlikely to me). I am a good writer but it has always been almost impossible for me to write good dialogue in fiction, or to determine people's emotional motivations. I'm good at the prose aspect but not the plot aspect. So the fact that he wrote plays seems kind of non-AS (just my opinion of course!!).

The early reports said that he did have an 18 year old girl friend. Now they are saying that he had no girlfriend and had in fact been a stalker. In the coming weeks we will learn everything there is to learn about Cho. They have even interviewed his grade school teachers in Korea for possible leads.

For sure there are non-Asian women who like Asian men, just as there are non-Asian men who only seem to want to go out with Asian women. But as an identity, and an identity presupposes some kind of complex social interaction, being an Asian male does create all sorts of problems. We see in media the buddy relationships that Black men and White men strike up, especially in ultra-violent cop movies. As the Hispanic population grows, the reliable Hispanic guy type has also made a strong cameo. In these films, the minority guy is always someone the White guy can rely on. But with very few exceptions, Asian men do not make it to the same status. When you do see Asian men appear in cinema at all, you will not see them as a buddy of the White guy. Asian men are generally portrayed as asexual beings that are bespectacled math whizzes. And before the political correctness movement, it was popular to have the villain as an Oriental. There is an aloofness, a separateness, a wrong kind of respect that is accorded but not inclusion into the easy backslapping world of best buds.

In a sense, we are there but not there. We are sort of white, but not White. We are required to fit but we never do. There is just no proper place for Asian men in America. If you think an autistic White guy has it tough, think about what it is like for an autistic Asian guy. It is like being excluded twice just so that people can really get the message through that you are not wanted.

Still what Cho did is very disturbing to Asians as it is generally thought that as migrants, we must simply accept the mores of the White majority. There is this cultural sense that Asians are permanent guests in America which is why so many of them are perpetually searching for their roots. When a White guy talks of looking for his roots, it just sounds silly. You are American, what more do you want? And as guests, it is disgraceful to do anything to harm such gracious hosts. Most Asians will probably never apologize enough for what Cho did even though they can understand some of the causality that the Asian label forces upon them.

A lot of his "loner" behavior might have something to do with the fact he was from outside the country. If you were in a different country you might be quiet too.

i dont care if he was or wasnt. the whole ordeal is blown out of porportion. as usual

Not based on current information.

The thing I never get is why school shooters take that approach in the first place. You never hear of school bombers, which seems rather illogical to me.

what current info would that be? oh the news. yeah its blown out of the water