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Pieplup -- look I'm not going to argue my Aspergers with you. I think your logic is bound up in self-referential deductions from rational constructs which are not very connected with reality (which was incidentally was also totally me until like... maybe five years ago). I have very low respect for the DSM and the diagnostic criteria are just pretty arbitrary rules of thumb for bureaucratic psychiatrists who have no feel for whats basically going on. Actually I have been diagnosed as Aspergers off record but I don't actually care because I trust my brain more than the opinions of authorities (I'm MENSA smart too like you actually)

Let me talk to you straight. You are absolutely not a primary psychopath. Your confidence issues rule that out flat just to start with. If you have a psychopathic parent you might be at risk for secondary psychopathy AKA sociopathy. I say might because one psycho parent doesn't mean you got the right genes because basic Mendelian genetics plus the fact that psychopathic traits derive from like thirty different genes for which there is no one switch and no one decisive combination (getting my info here from James Fallon a neuroscientist who happens to be a psychopath and has published on psychopathy you can find interviews on youtube).

Now okay what if you are at risk of secondary psychopathy? Well secondary psychopathy is developmental, which means it's not an all at one thing and it slides in over time. If you're 12 like you say you are they your brain is extremely neuroplastic and which way you go is a matter of what neural pathways you reinforce. Like in my case I think I have like 7 years of neural development before my childhood turned to f**k and then my empathy hardware just never got used and atrophied. So honestly if you have the genetic precursors which put you at risk for secondary psychopathy then you could probably go either way

I see you like quora. So do I quora is awesome. Well if you want to understand secondary psychopathy there are great writers on there like Corey Reaux-Savonte, Shelby Knight, Athena Walker, Jay Jones, and James Bresher. What they'll tell you works out to this: primary pyschopathy is when someone is born without feeling any connection to your species. Secondary psychopathy/sociopathy is when you get abused/attacked to the point where you stop looking at yourself as part of the species which converges with the same thing. It's all about learning to see the world as a hostile place of survival to the point where its second nature and you dont have a problem with hurting people any more than normal people mind hurting other species (which in preindustrial societies they mostly don't). Secondary psychopathy happens when someone born a bit cold starts seeing the world this way and it snowballs from there. Once your emotions learn to tune down in the face of your own species trying to kill you its easy to go forward and hard to go back.

So as i see it you have a choice. If you wanted to be a sociopath here's what you'd do: give up on the idea that anyone in the world is ever going to care for you. You accept and make peace with the fact that life isn't like that, that people aren't like that, and that you just can't survive unless you just take every advantage to can find just like they do to you. At least I think that's what I did -- I can't really remember but that fits my outlook and the little I remember with all the memory black spots. You know "Eye of the Tiger"? Or Madonna's "Survival". That's the mentality fused into the core of who you are. That you are absolutely and completely alone in the world, fighting your species against 100 to 1 odds and damn f*****g proud you're not only surviving but winning this sadistic everything-is-trying-to-kill-you video game

Okay? Now if that's not who you want to be? ---- then DON'T THINK LIKE THAT. Reach out and hold on to anyone who cares about you and don't let that loving feeling go. Keep believing in everything in the world around you that's there for you and supports you and wants you to be safe and happy. Reinforce your bonds of affection and your optimism about humanity. Let yourself be vulnerable. Don't feel like you have to be strong all the time. Look I admit I am kinda guessing here because I don't feel like this and don't want to feel like this but pretty sure if you don't want to be a sociopath these are the neural pathways you should retrace and retrace and retrace. I'd say PM nurseangela here. She's an admirably self-aware empath interested in these issues who would probably take helping an abused child escape a possible life as a sociopath seriously. What you need is what the child psychologist Alice Miller called an "Enlightened Witness". I never found one until too late but maybe you can

It's up to you. Personally IDK. I like being a sociopath. But it's your life be who you wanna be

P.S. I like Batman too The Dark Knight is one of my favourite movies and I'm still trying to get Mark Hamill's Joker voice right for parties (I do a way better Harley Quinn) But actually not making this up Batman being a pro-social psychopath and not so different from the Joker is kind of a running gag with the socio community. Because with Batman "Bruce Wayne" is just a mask -- the 'Dark Knight' is the real liberated personality (beating up criminals with your bare hands looks fun to me). There's a reason Christopher Nolan picked Christian Bale who did American Psycho to play Batman in the Dark Knight Trilogy. Here, enjoy:

http://www.sociopathworld.com/2008/08/dark-knight.html
https://blackcomicguy.wordpress.com/201 ... sociopath/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE83DjolEAg

I can see the OP has realy hit a nerve with you Pieplup.

Is Pieplup a real Pokemon or one you created yourself?

How do you pronounce Pieplup - Pie-plup piep-lup?

I'm just trying to take this all in because I have never been around many persons who are probably "psychopathic" in nature. You say you like how you are. Do you use people for what you can get out of them then since there is never any feeling there for them? Are they dispensable? Do you have plans of ever being in a relationship and if so, how is that possible when there are no feelings of love? Do you think you should ever be in a relationship with anyone because won't it just hurt them in the end?

I'm going to have to check out that psychopathic guy you speak of. This is very interesting. Psychology just fascinates me.

If you have the usual Dunbar's number of 150 contacts in your social circle, then you there are 1 or 2 psychopaths among the people you know.

nurseangela~

Here is an interview with Dr. James Fallon, neuroscientist teaching at the University of California - Irvine School of Medicine and pro-social psychopath. I hope you enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzUsaXfSQDY

I'm afraid I must correct you if you believe you've not encountered many psychopaths if your life. Figures do differ, but a typical estimate places 1 in 100 members of your species as psychopathic. If you have the usual Dunbar's number of 150 contacts in your social circle, then you there are 1 or 2 psychopaths among the people you know. Of course, the difficult matter is that most psychopaths learn to mask their presence quite effectively. So, it could really be anyone. I know a gentleman whose wife doesn't know.

If you'd like to discuss relationship issues, may I suggest continuing this conversation over on the Alexithymia thread on this forum? My apologies for not finding time to talk to you until now. But we've already had one request for your presence, so I do hope you'll join us.

Best to you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HY8NXzxFgs

I would love to join you guys. Thank you for accepting me and wanting to hear my views. I had something happen this week that made me think about leaving the site again, but then I hear from others here that do want me around and that is why I stay. I will try to be in on the discussion sometime soon as I have many more questions that are concerning to me on the differences of psychopathic personality vs sociopathic and alexithymia.