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Danielismyname
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12 May 2007, 6:04 am

Fraya wrote:
Good point. But still its hard for us to understand and help someone who doesn't want to understand us and meets us with only hostility.


Yes....that's life; how you meet said hostility offers insight into who you are and whom you’re not. The OP may’ve been attacking himself as much as “us”, i.e., why can’t I be as “functioning” as many here, blah…they’re lying, they aren’t AS like me. So I’ll go and attack them without realizing I’m only really attacking myself, and so on.



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12 May 2007, 6:06 am

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i think some of the comments made to this guy have been out of order.


Perhaps. But most of his comments were out of order as well.

It takes two to tango and you reap what you sow and all that.

Its a normal part of human nature to give what you receive.

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how you meet said hostility offers insight into who you are and whom you’re not


All I see it as having proven is that most of us have had to defend ourselves from irrational hatred before. When you act like a bully you have to expect to be treated like one in the only manner they can be effectively dealt with.. by making them afraid of you.

If you wish to receive respect you must be willing to give it first.



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12 May 2007, 6:14 am

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It takes two to tango and you reap what you sow and all that.


Yes…words rarely mean anything to me, for whatever reason; that’s who I am…disordered. Even though that's who I am, I still see how it can have a negative effect on those who do it innately as it can cause pain to both parties rather than just one....

It never ends. If it is ever to end, someone has to stop it before it even starts; and that's not the originator.



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12 May 2007, 6:15 am

well i not read the whole read and i cant be arsed, did he ask Mitch000 to call him a moron ?



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12 May 2007, 6:22 am

way i see it.
this guy has made some good points and the thread has been turned into a sitcom.



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12 May 2007, 6:25 am

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well i not read the whole read and i cant be arsed, did he ask Mitch000 to call him a moron ?


No...Mitch has that “right”; we can all call each other morons whether it’s true or not, but it’d be more productive to try and see where the other individual resides before thinking furtively, if it’s nowhere you like just ignore said individual. Otherwise it’s never going to end. Gee, if the whole world could see my ignorance. :roll:

Life is a sitcom. People need to have and enjoy their excitement at the expense of others.



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12 May 2007, 6:26 am

Danielismyname wrote:
It never ends. If it is ever to end, someone has to stop it before it even starts; and that's not the originator.


Why wouldn't it be the originator? If I burn down your house should I be punished or if you get angry at me for it you should be chastised instead?



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12 May 2007, 6:29 am

Fraya wrote:
Danielismyname wrote:
It never ends. If it is ever to end, someone has to stop it before it even starts; and that's not the originator.


Why wouldn't it be the originator? If I burn down your house should I be punished or if you get angry at me for it you should be chastised instead?


It’s words my dear cookie giver. :) It's what starts the whole process [in most cases]....



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12 May 2007, 6:37 am

well when i call people moron or idiot or cockfag, the post usually gets removed.
even when they have explicitly asked me to call them that for some weird reason.



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12 May 2007, 6:44 am

Danielismyname wrote:
It’s words my dear cookie giver. :) It's what starts the whole process [in most cases]....


Still a persons words will always provoke a response. The consequences are partially their responsibility.

In any case I don't have issue with the OP themselves merely their choice of approaches. If they want help thats fine I'm more than willing to offer what little aid I can if they just want to rant thats also fine but to attack innocent people without provocation is where I have to make it clear they have stepped over the line and I do not welcome them.

If however he is willing to try to be less hostile I easily forgive.



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12 May 2007, 6:47 am

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Threads like this are great. "My life is harder than yours, so you are faking, and in doing so taking attention away from me!"

So many ways that the OP could be countered that it isn't even worth the time or the effort. :lol:


all your problems are your own fault your just a emo who has no social skills not because your autistic but because you choose not to talk to people i try to talk to people but cant why dont you start makeing eye contact and go talk to someone because you dont want to be a so called nt you want to be special why dont you find some other disorder to pretend to have


Sweetie, you aren't smart enough to troll. Thanks for playing. That, or you really aren't all that bright. You admitted to the low IQ. I have nothing against that. That being said, you are a good judge of character or qualified to diagnose more so than others here because.... you say so? Hmmm... Not so much.

Your attacks, again, are little more than attempts to illicit responses. You want attention. Accept it, you're no less an attention whore than those you attack. In some ways, your neediness far exceeds that.

When did I say someone with AS was special? Oh, right, I didn't. If you will read a bit of what I've posted, I tend to get irritated when people use NT as an attack, or AS as a compliment. That's ok, I'm sure researching your targets isn't something you have thought of. You may not even be capable of it. No big deal.

As for social problems, yeah, you're the only one that has a right to have them, no? Everyone else, they can do it, they just don't want to? Wow, so you are the special one? Indeed....

I wait patiently for your next string of attacks. If I don't respond quick enough, fear not, I might be doing something like sleeping, or taking a shower.



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12 May 2007, 6:51 am

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well when i call people moron or idiot or cockfag, the post usually gets removed.
even when they have explicitly asked me to call them that for some weird reason.


It's because humanity isn't "enlightened" enough to see you for who you are and accept that.

Fraya,

Yes...of course there'll always be a response as long as there's an initiator; it’s easier to respond in kind than to put thought into where the spark came from; but it’s also easier still to remove the fuel before the spark even ignites the fuel and its oxidizer. Deleting and blocking isn’t the answer…how we answer is the answer.



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12 May 2007, 6:58 am

Danielismyname wrote:
Kosmonaut wrote:
well when i call people moron or idiot or cockfag, the post usually gets removed.
even when they have explicitly asked me to call them that for some weird reason.


It's because humanity isn't "enlightened" enough to see you for who you are and accept that.


yes i think you have it there. I wasn't actually thinking of the whole of humanity, just a few of the idiots around here. But we can generalise.



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12 May 2007, 6:59 am

shadexiii wrote:
aspie17 wrote:
shadexiii wrote:
Threads like this are great. "My life is harder than yours, so you are faking, and in doing so taking attention away from me!"

So many ways that the OP could be countered that it isn't even worth the time or the effort. :lol:


all your problems are your own fault your just a emo who has no social skills not because your autistic but because you choose not to talk to people i try to talk to people but cant why dont you start makeing eye contact and go talk to someone because you dont want to be a so called nt you want to be special why dont you find some other disorder to pretend to have


Sweetie, you aren't smart enough to troll. Thanks for playing. That, or you really aren't all that bright. You admitted to the low IQ. I have nothing against that. That being said, you are a good judge of character or qualified to diagnose more so than others here because.... you say so? Hmmm... Not so much. Your attacks, again, are little more than attempts to illicit responses. You want attention. Accept it, you're no less an attention whore than those you attack. In some ways, your neediness far exceeds that. When did I say someone with AS was special? Oh, right, I didn't. If you will read a bit of what I've posted, I tend to get irritated when people use NT as an attack, or AS as a compliment. That's ok, I'm sure researching your targets isn't something you have thought of. You may not even be capable of it. No big deal. As for social problems, yeah, you're the only one that has a right to have them, no? Everyone else, they can do it, they just want to? Wow, so you are the special one? Indeed....

I wait patiently for your next string of attacks. If I don't respond quick enough, fear not, I might be doing something like sleeping, or taking a shower.


your posts are too long for anyone to be bothered to read.
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12 May 2007, 7:03 am

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your posts are too long for anyone to be bothered to read.
:lol:


Great now I feel like a freak for having read them :P

But yeah more paragraphs would have been nice.. "wall of text" is bad :P


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12 May 2007, 7:06 am

And: has anyone notices that a fair number of WP members eventually undiagnose themselves and leave? Official dx or not, people often truly find themselves while on WP.

And then this; ai thought thebasis of the Asperger's dx is a presence of some degree of autism without a corresponding low IQ. I mean, can a person be low IQ and an aspie/ I didn't think so.


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