Are you "okay" with having Asperger's?

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30 Dec 2016, 10:57 pm

Knofskia wrote:
1) I have not learned it


I apologise if my OP or various replies on this thread have contributed to any frustration. In all honesty the last 48 hours have been the first time I've had a place to talk with other Aspies, and hadn't considered that my optimism and attempts to encourage could deprecate some of us.


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30 Dec 2016, 11:00 pm

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One of my favorite WP "authors" (willard) once wrote:

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I think all of us who are diagnosed as adults have a similar reaction in the beginning - it's at once a cathartic release from decades of guilt and self-loathing to realize the social handicaps that have held us back for so long are not our fault and not flaws in our individual personality, but the result of an actual neurological disorder over which we never had any conscious control - yet, at the same time, there's a profound sadness in the permanence and finality of knowing that because it's embedded in the neural wiring of our brains, that it's unchangeable.


This IS a great description! I felt the same sense of relief in the beginning. Then, I read one too many posts of a certain type on WrongPlanet, from inspirational "You CAN learn it" posts (which did not feel inspirational) to shaming "You are using autism as an EXCUSE" posts. Now, I feel the same guilt and self-loathing return because:
1) I have not learned it and
2) I dared to use my autism as the reason, so
3) it must still be a flaw in my character.
:evil: :oops: :cry:

I am hoping that someone can teach me to feel that peace again.


Not sure if it's the same thing, but I've often felt a bit insecure because I don't have any particular Aspie strengths that often get talked about. I was never good at math, history, dates, etc, so I can't follow the advice to go get jobs that value those skills when I struggle socially or to keep up in a fast-paced environment.

I was good with tech troubleshooting, but that's because I'm a fast learner in general and basic networking didn't really require math skills.



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31 Dec 2016, 6:10 am

Interesting responses here... wow.

So yeah, I am OK with it, more than. My son is even more pronounced with ASD. Its hard raising a child like that when everything he does irritates you for some reason. But I have made my peace with it.

My current challenge is to get myself employable somewhere, and run with it, preferably something creative, just a real pity the bar is so high at Disney/Pixar and I am in the wrong country. Companies and managers don't give a toss about me and my issues and see my inability to cope with fast-pacing as me "being lazy". Take for example software development. At some stage of it, you need to clean and refactor all the crap you put in to get the product out the door, and make the thing better. If you run Agile, this is basically standard operating procedure. But no, where I work, let's run it like a sweatshop in Pakistan, no breaks, no lunch, and you get into trouble if you go to the toilet too often. I am sorry I cannot concentrate for that long at a stretch.

Early in the new year I am going to see a life coach so we can figure out what my strengths are and take it from there. Career Change? Most bloody likely, move to another part of the country or even perhaps emigration? Again, most bloody likely.


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31 Dec 2016, 3:56 pm

I would rather continue having Asperger's than be neurotypical regardless of how much easier I might have it.



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01 Jan 2017, 5:41 am

Yes, now that an assessment with a recognised tool has confirmed the suspicions I had.

Lots of relief and gratitude as well.

Enough skills, specialist knowledge, manners and courtesy conventions learned well enough to stay with one large organisation for over three decades with sideways moves building breadth of knowledge,

Balancing enough Aspie traits that a number of informed people tell me they can spot a mile away.

Slight sadness, having failed in landing conventional romance and family way of life balanced by gratitude for my own home home and space to look after my own sensory requirement outside work time.



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01 Jan 2017, 1:36 pm

I think the question is invalid. It's not like we have much of a choice now, do we? I accept my autism because I have to, but if I had the choice of course I'd rather have a healthy, more fulfilling life. Still, no point in being bitter about things that can't be changed. Make the best of life and be satisfied with what it gives you.



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01 Jan 2017, 2:18 pm

Thank you for your responses =]

The question isn't invalid. I'm asking if you are at peace with the permanence of your condition. Answering by saying "what does it matter, it's permanent" is invalid, because that's not the question asked. However you have answered already by saying that if you had a choice you would be neurotypical. That suggests not being okay with it (even if you accept that it can't be changed), which is the question I was asking.


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01 Jan 2017, 3:11 pm

I am okay with it.

I think I would still be the same person if I was normal, just without the challanges due to AS. However, hating it won't change anything. This is just how my life is, and I'm comfortable with that.


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01 Jan 2017, 3:14 pm

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I think I would still be the same person if I was normal, just without the challanges due to AS.


That's a beautiful way of seeing it. I've taken something from that. Thank you for your input.


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01 Jan 2017, 3:27 pm

voidnull wrote:
Knofskia wrote:
1) I have not learned it


I apologise if my OP or various replies on this thread have contributed to any frustration. In all honesty the last 48 hours have been the first time I've had a place to talk with other Aspies, and hadn't considered that my optimism and attempts to encourage could deprecate some of us.


That is alright. You seem sincere in your question and in your appreciation of all answers. :D


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01 Jan 2017, 3:48 pm

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You seem sincere in your question and in your appreciation of all answers. :D


I read them all and try to empathise with how the poster is describing. I take on board their message, name, profile pic, age, gender, sentence structure and cadence, and clumsily assemble a device in my mind that represents how the poster might be feeling. It's primitive, but yes, it does leave me feeling gratitude for the data, to the point of sharing. Is that weird? That's weird isn't it.


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01 Jan 2017, 4:18 pm

voidnull wrote:
Knofskia wrote:
You seem sincere in your question and in your appreciation of all answers. :D


I read them all and try to empathise with how the poster is describing. I take on board their message, name, profile pic, age, gender, sentence structure and cadence, and clumsily assemble a device in my mind that represents how the poster might be feeling. It's primitive, but yes, it does leave me feeling gratitude for the data, to the point of sharing. Is that weird? That's weird isn't it.


I do not know what weird looks like, so I do not know if this is, but it is appreciated. :D


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01 Jan 2017, 4:24 pm

Knofskia wrote:
it is appreciated. :D


Thank you, for that and the "data" =]


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02 Jan 2017, 12:21 am

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...I've often felt a bit insecure because I don't have any particular Aspie strengths that often get talked about. I was never good at math, history, dates, etc, so I can't follow the advice to go get jobs that value those skills when I struggle socially or to keep up in a fast-paced environment.


There is one person who constantly harasses me to "get a job" as if getting a job was as simple and easy as wanting it. When I mention that (most) employers do not want my set of skills and limitations, this person then advises me to "get a skill" that is so invaluable that the employer has to put up with your limitations. As if accomplishing THAT was even possible for some people. :roll:


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02 Jan 2017, 4:03 am

I am not okay with having it a lot of people have left my life because of it I cry every night I just want to be normal my only friends are my 3 horses and 1 dog they are all I have plus my uncle and my mom and dad I hate it. :cry: :cry:



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02 Jan 2017, 6:57 am

voidnull wrote:
Knofskia wrote:
You seem sincere in your question and in your appreciation of all answers. :D


I read them all and try to empathise with how the poster is describing. I take on board their message, name, profile pic, age, gender, sentence structure and cadence, and clumsily assemble a device in my mind that represents how the poster might be feeling. It's primitive, but yes, it does leave me feeling gratitude for the data, to the point of sharing. Is that weird? That's weird isn't it.


Well, maybe, but in a good way. It's making an effort to try to understand people better, using the skill set that you have. And it appears to be working. :)


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