The Greta Thunberg Debate

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For example, I just looked up the 2013 IPCC report 'The Physical Science Basis' and the predictions for short-term climate effects were based on 42 different models from around the world, and four different emissions scenarios.
Sorry, just following on from my earlier post.

I don’t doubt that the models have a point.

I’m hoping I don’t have to become drastically “green,” change my lifestyle, in order to hold off the catastrophe.

I’m hoping all that needs to be done is to become more moderate about things.

I want to travel. Frankly, many locations outside of the “West” have limited provisions for those who are Vegan.

Yeah. I think we in the west are a bit out of touch with how much we rely on natural systems, we rarely experience shortages of food and clean water. (I thought we were suffering after Cyclone Larry when we had to go a few months without bananas!)
With climate change, things are just going to get a lot harder all round, first in areas that rely on subsistence farming, and later the developed world.

Yep....that's the nature of people, indeed.....if something is not concretely before their face, and it's abstract, people tend not to heed it.

I'm probably the same way.

There is a real life cautionary tale that needs to be discussed.

It happened in France in the year 1000AD. [France experienced a famine in the year 1000. The cause was rather unusual. The year 1000 was a time of extraordinary suffering, for the whole country was seized with a panic, fearing that the world would come to an end during this the millennial year. Thousands went on pilgrimages, deserting their homes and their fields and obstructing the whole normal course of their existence. Since the fields were left unplowed and unplanted and since the world did not come to an end, starvation set in.]

The point to this real life tale is that panic can produce great damage and reap great destruction.

So if people really believe the world will end in 15 years due to global warming, then it probably will. Because they will alter their daily life, quite their jobs. Agriculture, trade, energy, transportation, sanitation, health sectors will dissolve away and it will become a self fulling prophesy.

There are many interpretations of the effect of man-made global warming. It falls on a spectrum. The IPCC is not predicting the end of the world in 15 years. It is a fringe element within the environmental movement that is taking this position. The reason why is because they are trying to push governments into action. So they make these bold claims. And in the process they frighten young children to the point where these children are experiencing severe stress, anxiety and trauma.