Are all Autists unemployed?

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If I expected employers to bend over backwards to accommodate my attitude, I would be unemployed and homeless. I think that's what is wrong with most unemployed or underemployed people: They believe that having to compromise and conform to hold down a job is something of an insult to their pride-of-self and personal dignity. So how much pride and dignity do such people have while living inside a cardboard box on Skid Row?

I've been employed full time most of my adult life, not counting side jobs.

“The philosopher Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king. Said Aristippus, 'If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.'

Said [author:Diogenes|3213618, 'Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king".”

Let's pretend Fnord is Aristippus who said this to Diogenes.

Let's pretend the King is the employer.

Let's have me going in playing myself.

Me: I have a question for both of you.

Aristippus: Yes, what is it?

Diogenes: Can't you see we're having a conversation. You young scallawags and yougins always interrupting and full of yourselves.

Me: Well, that's not a nice thing to say sir! Here is my two cents. Why can't I live a comfortable life and the life I wish to live by not having to be subservient to the king?

Aristippus: How? The King controls all!

Diogenes: I agree. How will you do this you arrogant s**t?

Me: Diogenes my good man it's simple. I can choose to leave this Kingdom, learn to be subservient to another king in another kingdom, build up my wealth and benefits from my subservience to this king, go somewhere else and build my own little kingdom. I can choose who I will be subservient to and the choice I make will be the one who provides me the most benefits. So, why is it either or with you two? Why can't I give a little to gain a lot? Why must I choose subservience or lentils?

Back to the modern context...

Me as myself here in the modern world.

Fnord as himself in the modern world.

Employer as an entity in the modern.

Now, why can't I go to communist China, work there, conform to the rules there and conform to my employer's standards there as well. I will be teaching IT to students of various age brackets at an International School while my SO and myself start our own business and eventually buy our own housing properties to rent out as well a few years down the line when we come back to the states.

So, yeah I will have to conform a bit and do some Shucking and Jiving. It will be some give and take. In the end, my SO and myself will build our own little "Kingdom" so our future children can work for us and not have to sell a piece of their soul.

And, if it fails well can't say I didn't try. But, I still got up off my ass.

Sometimes ya got to give a little to gain a lot.

Take a look at this Country’s Twitterer in Chief. He, and the rest of the so-called GOP (aka, rethuglicans) are doing their damndest to stop progress, and have this country regress to worse than a banana republic.

What?! Rethuglicans?!  How dare you! Everyone knows they're called Repugnicans!!

"accommodate my attitude" is Orwellian double-think and it means this. What it means is that you're expected to be a caricature or a type of person that an employer wants whether this caricature is the true "you" or not. In other words, you are an actor on a stage and you're expected to play a part whether you feel comfortable with this part or not and whether one feels like one is a fraud or not. This is what our capitalistic society demands and expands.

Another word for this is "social." We're expected to be and learn to be social and this whole "accomodate my attitude" which is on the same coin means we're expected to contort our emotions, expression of our emotions, our very attitude until one is not allowed to feel and express what is genuine to him. One is forced to lie to himself and lie to others about the very essence of who you actually are. Others claim they want honesty and they want people to be themselves but this most certainly is not true at all. The truth of the matter is you're expected to be yourself but what does this mean. It means to be your best self. And, this best self is defined by others.

I've always thought growing up and was led to believe that the USA was a inner directed society but what I've come to understand is that it is other-directed(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lonely_Crowd).

You are not allowed to feel, think or express an emotion other then what others say you're allowed to feel, think or express. Be yourself means no longer to be genuine but be the self that others demand you ought to be whether you fit the "mold" of this self or not.

You are expected to conform, compromise and capitulate in many ways until you are but a caricature of who you really are.

And, when one brings all of this up it is "you" with the problem. You're the narcissist. You're the one with a negative attitude. It can't be that American society is a cult with contradictory teachings.

http://archive.boston.com/bostonglobe/i ... onformity/

One can't even think or feel anything that contradicts the established paradigm.

All forms of negativity is rejected even if negativity is based in truth, logic and fact. Even if one can prove this negative. Others will reject your proof and claim that you're being negative. And, I ask why does it have to be this whole positive vs negative paradigm. Why can't one have degrees of positivity and degrees of negativity? Why does our society have such a love affair with all positive and a hatred of the negative even if the negative is warranted?

Fnord is right about one thing. If you want to deal with these employers you will have to play their game by their rules. Same with society until you are able to position yourself to an alternative. My advice would be to know the devil you're working with and for, understand what he will want, know you're a disposable resource to him and always be prepared to be tossed and build yourself something better. You have somewhat of a control of which master you serve and there may be some masters who are more tolerable then others. Use that master to advance and bring benefit to yourself and to your future children so they can be who they truly are, be honest with themselves and honest with each other and others.

At least I’m consistent. To me, Democrats are Dopeycrats (It’s was a thing with basset hound owners about 20 years ago, when Basset Rescue of the Old Dominion (BROOD) ran a fund raising campaign like a political campaingn (Dopeycrats and Republicans). I picked up rethuglicans from auntblabby.

Besides, Repuglicans would be an insult to the pug breed.

Personally, a basset hound, or even a bloodhound, could run this country a lot better that the current twits and d!ckcheesing SOB’s at the federal, state, and local level.

Here is another question I have. Conservatives want small government and believe in personal responsibility and accountability right? Some employers are corporations right? So, why do we have the government involved in the creation of corporations? Aren't corporations a government created entity? Why don't we get rid of the corporate charters all of these corporations have? Therefore, we would have single owned and partnership businesses. And, if something happens the owners are responsible. So, where's the conservative outcry for personal responsibility?

They only scream for personal responsibility when they can demonize others and leach the rest of us of our hard-earned shekels.

For me, it's Dummycrats and Repugnicans (a play on the word "Repugnant"). Ugs are one of favorite breeds of dog. Pugly Ugs, especially; the puglier the better!Most every politician could be replaced with a spavine mule, and no-one would notice, imho.

Here is another question I have. Do employers have our interests as Autistic people at heart or do they have only their own bottom line in mind?

Fnord said and I quote

Yet, people who have accommodated their attitude to the employer's demands still can become unemployed and homeless. One can work for an employer for years and still be laid off even though they had the right attitude, worked long hours, were very appreciative and thankful, and paid their dues.

Fnord, I'm sure he worked hard and put in his dues and did his long hours. I'm sure he gave the attitude his employer wanted. He was able to retire more then likely with benefits and all. But, it could've also went a different way in which he could've been laid off a year before his retirement for some reason or no reason at all.

The truth is this. We're nothing but resources and numbers to them. We only are there to serve there bottom line. We're to be team players as in serving their team and don't expect anything in return since it is a codependant relationship.

This is why we need to look after our own interests as autistic people.

Why do you want to work here?

Truthful answer of what crosses my mind: I don't want to work here or anywhere. I would rather play games, read my fanfiction and watch tv all day.

This is an unacceptable answer though.

More acceptable answer even though it is a lie: (You have to answer in a way that benefits them.) Example: The reason I wish to work here is because you are a company that supports, researches and makes renewable and alternate energy and fuels. I wish to be a part of and work hard for your organization because your values and your goals align with mine. (It wouldn't be a complete lie because I do believe we need renewable and alternate energy sources.) But, do I wish to go to work, be on their time and schedule with the idea they can fire me at any time? Would I wish to go to work to do work I may not even want to do at all or even get up when they demand I get up? The answer is no to all of this.

So, as you all see one is forced by employers to be deceptive. Haven't you all been raised up with the idea that honesty is the best policy. I know I have. Yet, we're expected to deceive, stretch the truth, and somewhat fabricate one's answer in a double think sort of way?

Now only does one have to pretend to be something one is not but one is forced to be deceptive. Employers don't want your honesty.

This isn't just employers. People claim they want honesty until you're actually honest with them and they don't like it.

So, how does all of this double-think, shucking and jiving and dishonesty serve our interests as the autistic community. Yeah, we may have to do it somewhat until we get into a position where we or our children don't have to but being double minded and faking your way through life is bad for one's soul.

^^ I think that they do want honesty, but you can't afford it if you want a job.

Truth is employment and the whole game we're all expected to play is a crap shoot. Another truth is that people are sheep and lemmings. When you go online to different comments in articles I see a lot of people who hates this system. They hate it with a passion. Yet, for the most part people don't want to say "The Emperor is Nude."